Ray mercer shot at 41 when he fought wlad?????

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by fidds, Jul 14, 2008.


  1. Suge Green

    Suge Green Boxing Junkie banned

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    If you are going to suggest that I would be "all over" something in one post, and then admit, "why would I beat the steroid drum...???" in your very next post...it's evident you still must improve your posting skills, in order to carry on a dialogue lasting a series of posts...:bart
     
  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    why would you as a Toney fan bring up his abuse of anabolic steroids and failed tests? :huh If it was Wlad and not Toney who had flunked the test you would be all over it.

    :lol:
     
  3. Suge Green

    Suge Green Boxing Junkie banned

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    You suggested I would be all over a steroid issue...I never have been.

    The record disagrees with you.:deal
     
  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    you have not been all over it BECAUSE it has been James Toney cheating and flunking all the tests I am sure you are trying to forget it.
     
  5. Suge Green

    Suge Green Boxing Junkie banned

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    You can't back up what you say.


    To suggest I would be "all over" something, and then say..."oh, you wouldn't be because..."

    ..is a sign of weakness, and a poster who has failed to think out his argument...

    I am thoroughly consistent with my posting here, you should learn to be...

    :bart
     
  6. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    exactly correct.
     
  7. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    yeah Mercer was shot everyone knows that, but I also think it was Wlad at his peak as far as offense goes. He used to be very entertaining and throw some great combos for a guy his size. I loved his older style. Now days he is plain boring jab jab jab jab hug jab jab hug. **** he waits until round 4 to even throw one hook or right hand. Steward has him waay too gun shy these days.
     
  8. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    According to some of you, fighters are either in their prime or shot, with nothing in between - but fighters can be past their prime and still not be shot. Most fighters do not grow old overnight, and some fighters manage to continue being competitive at the top in their late 30s or even past 40. They may not have the athletic abilities they had at 25, but they compensate it by being smarter in the ring, more experienced and adapting their style to their age. B-Hop is a prime example of this.

    IMO the Ray Mercer that fought Wlad was nowhere his best, but he still had something left. A tough contender, who still had his heart and chin, and still dangerous when he got his jab going. He would have given most HWs at the time a lot of trouble, but Wlad clearly beat him and it was one of his best wins. Shannon Briggs had his hands full with Mercer three years after that fight, and had to resort to rabbit punching to win.
    But would Wlad have beaten the 1995 version of Mercer? That's another question...
     
  9. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Solid post FROST :thumbsup
     
  10. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yup :good

    On the flip side, regardless of Mercer's state, I still consider this one of Wlad's best showings. Offensively, possibly the most complete showing he's ever had.