Ray Mercer v the 1900's Crew

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    The Mercer who gave Lewis all he wanted against the old quartet.
    Fitz ,Jeffries,Sharkey ,and Corbett.
    Does he win any ?
    If so, who does he beat?
     
  2. Seamus

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    He beats them all.
     
  3. he grant

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    Once again, what rules, what ring size, ect ...
     
  4. mcvey

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    Ring sizes are arbitrary , unless stipulated by the champion ,as Marciano ,and Ali often did. I have been in 19ft rings and some a lot bigger ,so no difference there.
    How much have the rules changed, since 1900?
    We are not talking LPR rules ,Marquess Of Queensbury,3 min rds 1 min rest between, only difference the kd /neutral corner rule to be strictly enforced. Modern gloves, 15rds.
     
  5. Pachilles

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    Mercer knocks then all out
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    Mercer didn't have the stamina. He was flabby and out-of-breath against Lewis.
     
  7. Pachilles

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    It wouldnt take too long
     
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    Ring sizes are key and were often issues of debate in that era. That being said I like Corbett by decision rather easily, Sharkey is a bad style match up and would likely lose by decision, Jeffries would out class him and win by decison and poor Fitz would likely get flattened like he did against Jeffries ...
     
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    Mercer wasn't that good.
     
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    I'd like your thoughts Methuselah ...
     
  11. mcvey

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    What were the ring sizes when Jeffries faced Corbett?
    When Sharkey faced Jeffries?
    It isnt rocket science, a swarming puncher wants a small ring, an elusive boxer wants a big one ,hence Marciano stipulated ,via Al Weill that he wanted the smallest ring allowed, eg The Cockell fight.
    Ali stipulated ,he wanted the biggest aaginst Cooper,etc.
    The decision is down to the Golden Rule ie, them that's got the gold ,makes the rules,ie The Champ gets to say.
     
  12. turpinr

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    mercer would beat them all.any rules, any length of rounds, with gloves or without
     
  13. he grant

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    So your not going to give a definative response to the question ?
     
  14. janitor

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    You cant go into a fight saying:

    "It dosn't matter that this fight is scheduled for 45 rounds because I only need 5".

    By that logic you wouldnt even bother to train.

    In the real world everybody starts getting taken the distance when the hit world level, however good they are as a finisher. Therfore Mercer is going to have to adapt to being a 25 round fighter or perish.

    Also if we are matching Mercer vs this era, then we can't just take his random best performence. We have to factor in his off nights as well.
     
  15. mcvey

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    If you are going to use verbiage terms ,best to learn how to spell them .
    It's definitive.


    And you're, not your.

    Mercer beats Sharkey,loses to Fitz , Jeffries, and Corbett, by dec.After the fight with Fitz, he looks nearly as bad as Jeffries did, if that's possible?:lol: