Ray Mercer would blow Rocky Marciano's back out change my mind

Key word could. Ali could lose a unanimous decision to Berbick, but we all know that that's not the man at his peak.

 

Mercer was as this peak for this stinky performances. Ali was a corpse.

 

Mercer looked impressive at times, but I have never liked the logic that if somebody gave an ATG a good fight in a losing effort, they would have beaten a whole slew of great fighters.

It is much more likely that you are just seeing that ATG on the nigh when the magic didn't come together.

Mercer also looked ordinary at times.

The smart money is still on Marciano in my opinion.

 

Mercer was insanely green for all of those performances apart from Witherspoon. Just watch the difference between him there and against Lewis.

 

When there's a huge weight disparity and an unfortunate matchup of styles, most ATGs will struggle. The fact that we're bringing up Marciano and giving him a chance against a man fifty pounds heavier than him is a compliment.

 

This simply isn't true. Maybe you can make that argument for Occosio, but by that time Occosio was already a semi-opponent type fighter fighting a weight class above natural. The rest were after good, tough character builders.

 

No argument here.

 

Insanely was an exaggeration, sorry about that. My point was that we're not comparing records here, and these horrid performances are not representative of a true, peak Mercer. We don't rate Rocky based off of his performance against say, Bobby Quinn. "Rocky knocked Quinn out in three, but 1-7-2 Roger Wily could do it in two! Marciano's a bum!"
If Rocky really could beat Mercer, then why base your argument around Ray at his worst? It seems kinda superficial to undersell one fighter to boost up another. Simply put, if Marciano was really great enough to beat a man while having so many disadvantages, why hasn't anybody focused on how he'd do it? It seems like all I've read is about Mercer having a bad record and putting up poor performances rather than focusing on how Rocky is gonna dismantle the same guy who split competitive decisions with Lewis and Holyfield.

 

Mercer was 225 at his best more of a 40 point difference…it wouldn’t help him at all

 

Mercer was devoid of speed skill and stamina. Idk who this fantasy fighter is we are talking about. He weighed more but he wasn’t exactly much taller and I don’t think he used his weight to his advantage so it wouldn’t even help him. I wouldn’t doubt Marciano being just as strong. He was a freak for his size by all accounts. Mercer didn’t move his head well had slow feet and hands. He didn’t particularly throw a ton. How is he going to keep up w Marciano? He was tough and had power, that’s it. He stood right in front of his opponents w bad footwork. That’s a terrible combo against Rocky

 

I personally think that he was superior in the Lewis fight, when he had more weight on him, but let's use his weight from Holyfield.
How is Marciano going to beat a man with a thunderous right, a strong jab, an iron chin, a nine inch reach advantage, and a strong inside game? And how is he gonna surpass a forty pound weight advantage on top of all of that? Tell me his gameplan.

 

But he was peak for most of those. That is exactly the point. He was up for a title shot if he could beat Ferguson, and he couldn't pull it out.

 

Mercer was so devoid of speed, skill, and stamina that he split hard decisions in wars with two of the best fighters of the 90s... Holyfield and Lewis must be some of the worst fighters of all time.
He weighed much more and was nigh four inches taller with a much more significant reach advantage. And yes, Marciano was insanely strong for his size, but does it make any sense for him to be as strong as a man who weighed some forty to fifty pounds heavier than him, who was insanely strong for his size??? Would Marciano be able to put Lewis to the ropes consistently for 10 rounds? If Rocky had the strength of men 70 lbs heavier than him, then he would've killed his fellow men in the ring rather than knock them out. Mercer didn't move his head but had an iron chin, had pretty fast hands for his size, but definitely lacked in footspeed- Marciano will have plenty of chances to hit him, but I doubt he's stronger than Lewis and can put him down. Ray threw 381 punches against Lennox and landed around 59% of them- And I obviously won't compare his stats to Marciano's, as Rocky threw punch after punch after punch... But you have to keep in mind both Mercer's size, but also the fact that every punch is gonna be the worst Marciano's ever taken. 40 pounds under a man who consistently rocked men of that size is no joke. And yeah, maybe standing in front of Rocky would've been a bad idea if he was Marciano's size, but he obviously isn't.

 

If he was peak against Ferguson, and lost, then Holyfield and Lewis must be total bums to fight competitively against a Mercer that was supposedly past his peak. All hail Jesse Ferguson!

 

I don't know what's going through your guys' heads, man.