Ray Mercer would blow Rocky Marciano's back out change my mind

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    No Diddy but agreed
     
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  2. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’ll change your mind with just two words - Bert Cooper.

    Mercer is made to quit.
     
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  3. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire banned Full Member

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    The toughened Mercer from the Lewis fight I would bet on taking it. As mentioned by other posters, Ray also went 12 rounds with Cooper despite Bert breaking his jaw early on- So if nothing else, Rocky is in for an extremely long and tough night.
     
  4. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Or someone who has life & death with Bert Cooper is prime heavy bag material for a fighter like Marciano.
     
  5. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire banned Full Member

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    The Cooper incarnation of Mercer was not only a very green version of Ray, but also heavily injured, and still controlled the fight. At most, Ray dropped one round to a man who nearly knocked out Holyfield while having a broken jaw, and you think
    he's simply gonna be a punching bag? Especially when a peak Mercer is LEAGUES above that one? Marciano probably takes a decently good decision to most versions of Mercer, but the one that gave Lewis hell would win.
     
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  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Simmons was 8-8-1 and would end up 9-22-1.
    Ocasio is 5 ft 11 1/2in.Lewis fought him in his 12 th fight.
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Forgot about this thread, was really unhinged when I first got here. Marciano deserves some respect
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Life& death?
    This below is Life & Death
    Michael J. Thomas of the Providence Journal wrote, "Marciano did not win the fight. This reporter gave it to Lowry, six rounds to four.”

    The crowd of 3,696 booed the decision and some wondered if Lowry had thrown the fight. "There were some questions as to whether Lowry, who had come close to knocking out Marciano in the second, third and fourth rounds, deliberately bogged down in his attack after the fourth stanza," Thomas wrote. "Lowry stopped using his uppercut after the fourth. He went into a shell and only occasionally landed power shots. He seemed to be carrying Marciano."

    In his book Rocky Marciano: The Rock of His Times, Russell Sullivan wrote the following:

    "It was Lowry, not Marciano, who was on the verge of scoring an early knockout, stinging Marciano with two terrific rights in the first round and then rocking him with two mighty uppercuts in the second. By the fourth, a staggered Marciano seemed just one punch away from being knocked out. But then, inexplicably, Lowry stopped fighting and retreated into a shell despite warnings from the referee to open up and a cascade of boos from the crowd. To many, it appeared that Lowry was deliberately carrying Marciano. Was foul play afoot? Was Lowry getting paid to lose? Or was he merely tiring? Whatever the reason, a revived Marciano managed to rally in the late rounds even though many of his punches missed their mark or lacked force. On the basis of his aggressiveness and constant punching, Marciano won a unanimous decision from the judges. Most observers felt, however, that Lowry should have won."
    Lowry, who earned $2,500 for the fight, denied he threw the fight. "I beat Rocky that night and that’s it," he said. "He changed his strategy in the fifth round and made a fight of it, but I won two of the last six rounds after winning the first four. It was a hometown decision."


    Some one who has life and death with Ted Lowry and is in danger of being stopped is prime heavy bag material for Mercer
     
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mercer won pretty much every round vs Cooper and had to adjust on the fly staying in close smothering Cooper's punches to protect his broken jaw. It was a freak injury that happened very early in the fight and I think Mercer showed alot of heart and good composure to get out of the crisis vs a big puncher.

    I could also say if Marciano was lucky to get the nod vs journeyman Ted Lowry then Mercer would give him hell aswell.

    Mercer was very hot and cold and a poor version of Mercer would obviously lose to Marciano. But a motivated Mercer who outjabbed Lewis and who would outweigh Marciano by a good 40-50 pounds would be a very problematic opponent for Marciano.

    As I keep saying Marciano only really has 1 notable win vs a Heavyweight over 200 pounds and that is a totally faded version of Louis.

    Marciano never beat any elite prime young Heavyweight over 200 pounds.
     
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  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh wow I missed this post great minds think alike.
     
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  11. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    925 ft-lbs says no man simply eats Marciano's punches

    49-0 says Marciano taking a loss exists solely in your butthurt fantasies.


    I don't understand the need to dethrone the only perfect the division has ever seen.


    Y'all realize if I stretched the rules and defined "boxing" as every sport that lead up to it Rocky would be joined by less than a dozen new names. From 600sBC to now about a dozen men period, ever.

    The majority would be ancient fighters we can't prove even existed let alone actually competed.

    The rest would be fighters who existed during the LPRR era and have a total of less than ten fights in their entire career.

    Then there's Marciano. The sole, only, verifiable 0 with a modern career's worth of fights on his record the division has ever seen

    On top of that he measured his punch to an inhuman level.



    **** all that though, let's disrespect the man because he's not large enough to make a *****'s butthole pucker and he fights in a manner you don't like.




    ****ing Ray Marcer deserves to be mentioned as a brick wall for the only perfect the sport's ever seen, sure bud. Taught to you by other dumb asses whose full understanding of boxing comes from fandom.
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    People like @swagdelfadeel think I'm unhinged when it comes to Galento
     
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  13. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If only their careers bore out these kind of results? Except they didn’t - Marciano made a career of producing 100% while Mercer had sub-amateur commitment levels. Marciano makes him quit.
     
  14. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now list Mercer’s great wins.
     
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  15. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How does Marcianos record have any bearing on matchups with much bigger fighters from other eeas? It's not disrespecting him to suggest he would lose to someone like Mercer who competed in a stronger era.