Ray Robinson Jan 1, 1955 to Dec 31 1960?

I do you have to take care of your self to secude at that age Robinson took care of himself, Leonard didn't.

 

Are Brett Favre, Dan Marino and Peyton Manning better quarterbacks than Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw?
The first group is 2-3 in Super Bowls. The second one is 8-0.
Brett Favre, Dan Marino and Peyton Manning are 1,2,3 in Passing touchdowns and yards.
Montana is #12 in yards Bradshaw is # 46.
Montana is # 11 in touchdowns. Bradshaw is # 25.
Based on talant/abillity alone you have to go with Brett Favre, Dan Marino and Peyton Manning. However when you look at the over all picture. You got to go with Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw. Why because they won the big game when they were cappple of doing so. Robinson lost championship fights when he was capple of winning them.

 

Why do I have to repeat myself?

 

To say a boxer is old is no excuse. Robinson was capable of winning those fights. Leonard who had been hand feed creem puffs up to the Jimmy McLarnin fight was no longer capable of winning those fights. Jimmy McLarnin who was two fights away from being a world champion was no cream puff.
Had Leonard had better management and put him in more chalanging bouts. he may have been in better shape with his 5′ 5″frame and 69" reach Leonard should have been fighting at weight closer to 145 than the 150 he was. At 5′ 11″ and a 72½″could easily handall 160at his age. At 5' 11" and 72" Robinson was more likely malnurshed welterweight than he was a beefed up one fighting as a middleweight. In otherwords while I don't beleve there is anysuch thing as naturalweight if there was 160 would be closer to Robinson's than 147.
I do belive that Leonard's bad managment put him in a bad spot.

 

Which oppoent was this?
All that matters is head to head? really that's my point. You can have his exbitions, oh excuse me non tittle fights. There is anothe name for them "record stuffers".
Robinson's talent is not in question. However when it mattered he lost more often than he should have.

 

Any thing up to the end of 1960. 14-6-1 was his record in championship fights this includs 2 wins for the Pennsylvania State World Middleweightchampionship.
At which point was Robinson a shell of him self?

 

Keep my first response in mind because I'm not backing down from it. Leonard was not the anywhere near what he was. At worst Robinson was very close.
However Lets say your right based on my oragional statment about aghe Leonard should have beaten Jimmy McLarnin. I give you that. I don't agree. However he should have been in better shape. Bad Magament or not, it was Leonard's responsibility to be in shape. Just like it was Robinson's responsibility to fight smarter. Both men were capable of the tsk in which they failed.
The thing is It happened to Leonard only once. If you count the Britton fight than that would be twice. It happened to Robinson 7 times