Ray Robinson vs. Dick Tiger

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  1. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    15 rounds for the Middleweight Championship...
    Who and why?
    In my opinion, this has the possibility of being a brutal fight for Robinson....If he would elect to exchange punches with Tiger...Which Sugar has shown a penchant for doing at times. This could be very close. It's my guess, after feeling Tiger's strength and power, Robinson does indeed decide that descretion is better than valor....and stays away.
    Robinson UD
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Robinson would beat Dick Tiger, i'm confident of that. Tiger wasn't great against box/movers (though he beat a few) and Sugar was the ultimate.

    UD 15.
     
  3. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Robinson would get the 'cleaner' work done, but it wouldnt be easy by any stretch
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Tiger had his work cut out with Giardello,Robinson could do anything Joey could do and better and faster,he beats the somewhat pedestrian ,and predictable Tiger.
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    There is a tendency nowadays to overrate Tiger. He was good against less than mobile sluggers and other more or less stationary fighters, but not so good against boxers. Joey Archer, Joey Giardello, and Emile Griffith all found success against Tiger by follwing a sort of formula of jabbing, boxing and moving. Sugar Ray Robinson didn't get to be called the pound for pound best for nothing. He would have followed the golden formula against Tiger and would have won a comfortable decision. Monzon would have done the same, and, despite what some may think to the contrary, guys like Hugo Corro and Paul Pender would have as well. Sugar Ray Leonard would have pulled a Duran II on him, and Rodrigo Valdez and Marvin Hagler would have opted to box rather than slug with Tiger and would have won as well. I think Tiger was a very strong man and a legitimate great, but his flaw was with boxers who could jab. It was said by some boxing writer in the sixties that a good trombone player could beat Tiger, meaning a guy who put the jab out there and had the discipline to stick and move all night.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    "Guys like Tiger ,I can allways outbox" Joey Giardello,Boxing Illustrated ,many years ago.
     
  7. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    Ray would beat Dick, by the slimmest of margins.He knows that by trading with him, would be fatal, so he would mix it up a bit, enough to confuse Dick, and steal a victory.
     
  8. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Robinson's feet likely see him do the better work but let's not act like Ray wouldn't fight Tiger for a lot of the bout. He would, and would make it more competitive than it needed to be.

    Robinson UD
     
  9. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Spot on. In my opinion.
     
  10. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    Giardello II & III, Griff I & II and Joey Archer [who nearly floored him!] suggest there's no way Dick is doing this to the disciplined and consistent [which Giardello wasn't] Sugarman at 160 with each at his MW best.

    Beyond that, Griffith proved that Robby could have done decisioned any version of Tiger while still at his WW peak. [I also think a number of other ATG WW stylists could have done this.]
     
  11. DFW

    DFW Active Member Full Member

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    I doubt Paul Pender could hang in there with Dick Tiger. His jab wasn't strong enough to hold off Tiger and Dick would rip him to shreds when he once got inside. Even a ringworn Basilio had Pender going quite a few times and Carmen was never as strong a fighter as Tiger.
     
  12. Hammer Muldoon

    Hammer Muldoon Active Member Full Member

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    Robinson would win a decision more often than not. Tiger was nails, no way that ray gets him out of there imo.
     
  13. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dead right. Pender was not in Tiger's class.
     
  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joey Archer wasn't a real strong guy, yet he defeated Tiger...by the classic formula of course.