Ray Robinson vs Monzon but with this catch....

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Robinson comes in at 147 while Monzon comes in at 160.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Oct 5, 2019
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    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Tuff, I'll take Robinson based on what we can assume his speed was like. His chin was good enough to take what Monzon had to offer and his quickness would make up for his size and stylistical disadvantages imo.

    Although bump the thread this time tomorrow and I'll probably have a different answer.
     
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    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Robinson.Monzon is too slow
     
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  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's possible Robinson wins, but I wouldn't bet on it
     
    Reinhardt, Oct 5, 2019
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  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Carlos Monzon was great, but Sugar Ray Robinson, in his prime had it all. Ray by decision, he could withstand that paralyzing right hand of Monzon, both had good chins. Too much movement and speed. Both are my all time favorites.
     
    Richard M Murrieta, Oct 5, 2019
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    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’m backing Monzon, great big fighter beats a great small fighter
     
    Webbiano, Oct 5, 2019
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    Grapefruit Active Member Full Member

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    I'd still take Robinson by u.d.
     
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  8. ray fritz

    ray fritz Active Member Full Member

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    Monzons size wins it for him......remember 1st Ray/Turpin fight replay
     
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    christpuncher Active Member banned Full Member

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    monzon
     
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  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Monzon beats SSR in a 15 round decision. Monzon IMO, was the greatest middleweight champion, and would be poison for Ray...all wrong for him. I still say that SRR was the greatest fighter ever, but that wouldn't help him at all at middleweight.
     
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  11. Blaxx

    Blaxx Active Member Full Member

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    Why is Monzon poison for Ray? I think the opposite is truer. Too much speed and skill.
    I prefer a Ray that's around 154lbs though
     
    Blaxx, Oct 6, 2019
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    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Monzon beats a 147 lb SRR. In lower weight divisions weight becomes important. 5-10 lbs can be an insurmountable advantage. Plus Monzón was top 5 ATG middleweight.
     
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  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's basically it...so rather than me once again justifying my pick of Monzon...I'll defer all others to your post.
     
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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're wrong.
     
    red cobra, Oct 6, 2019
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    Blaxx Active Member Full Member

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    Why do you think Monzon is a bad match up for Ray. And what opponents are you looking at as reference for that?
     
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