Raymond Charles Leonard vs. Floyd Joy Sinclair Mayweather

Casuals, trolls, and contrarians.

 

It still isn't a great win like Duran beating Ray at 147, which was my point

 

I think Leonard may be slightly more athletical than Floyd but perhaps Floyd technically even more skilful with the better defence. Leonard is the naturally bigger man but we also know Floyd does not know how to lose. We are working with tight margins here.

 

'Floyd doesn't know how to lose....." - effin idiot

 

I’ve said before on other threads in the past.
Leonard is everything Mayweather thinks he is and much more!

No amount of shoulder rolling and dipping below the waist line will save FMJ from the ligtening speed and accuracy of SRLs shots and combinations.

Ray would be in and out landing single and multiple shots at such speed that Floyd wouldn’t know which direction to back off in. Ray would know what Floyd was thinking before Floyd did and every time FMJ tried to counter Leonard would have changed the angle and attacked him again.

There’d be times when Leonard was just too fast for Floyd and there’d be other times when Ray would plant his feet and punish Mayweather with heavy handed shots.

In the end Ray would be too fast, too accurate, too wise, too big, too confident, too powerful and his anticipation of what Floyd was going to try would leave FMJ open to a severe punishing.

Floyd gets stopped in the late rounds either by the referee who stops an unanswered Leonard barrage or by his own corner pulling him out of an embarrassingly one sided contest. In both cases Floyd expression would betray his relief at being out of there.

 

floyd's philly shell is not going to work with leonard because.... youd said so, and period, right?

People constantly underrate mayweather. Leonard has nothing that mayweather hasnt seen before. Imho mayweather's footwork is beter than leonard's and mayweather's IQ is higher than leonard's. And leonard is 175cm height/179cm reach and mayweather is 173cm height/183cm reach.

Mayweather is a very live dog in this fight. How much money do you have to lose betting against mayweather until you realize, men? Mayweather is not maybe the GOAT (or yes, I dont care) but what's for sure is that he is an undeniable ATG. Giving no chances to an ATG is beyond stupid.

What's for sure too is that the fight would be boring as ****. As pacman's fight was.

Hearns, on the other hand is another story. Hearns looks like hand made and designed to beat mayweather. Were he southpaw I would think it was the case for real.

EDIT: and it's pretty obvious that I think that lonard is overrated as ****. Lost to durán, robbed hearns (actually roobed him, not like when people without any clue about scoring a fight say mayweather robbed castillo. No, actual robbery) and waited until hagler was old and about to retire to fight him (it was last hagler's fight, and he won in a razor close fight with split decision, prime hagler would never lose to him in 12 rounds, and prime hagler would kill him in the ring in 15 rounds instead of 12)

 

I didn’t say that he couldn’t have been hit.

I said that Floyd wouldn’t have pot shotted him.

 

Leonard had nothing that Floyd had not seen before?

That’s not true at all.

Floyd never saw a guy like Ray Leonard in his entire career.

He might have seen guys who were fast, skilled and powerful, but never a guy who possessed all of those attributes together.

In almost every fight, Floyd had a significant reach advantage over his opponents.

In almost every fight, Floyd had a significant speed advantage over his opponents.

In every fight, Floyd had a skill advantage over his opponents.

Whenever Floyd was outweighed, he had advantages in speed and skills.

Whenever Floyd fought a bigger fighter, he had advantages in speed and skills.

Against a prime Ray Leonard, he’d have been facing a guy who was equally as fast, equally as skilled, (offensively) but who also had more confidence, and who was bigger, stronger and more powerful.

The full package.

Against Ray, apart from being better defensively, he’d have had no advantages.

Ray would have been a significant favourite.

He had the skills and the speed to have boxed with Floyd.

He had the firepower if he’d have needed to have turned the boxing match into a fight.

 

Leonard did not beat Hagler. That was a BS decision and Leonard should've given him the rematch.

That said, I'd see this matchup going 7 - 5 either way and would even put a cool 100 on a draw.

 

Over the guy who beat Ortiz, Guerrero, and Berto? No freaking way!

 

Floyd would have had no answer if Ray had needed to have turned a boxing match into a fight.

 

SRL's resume is far far superior to Floyd's. If you ignore Floyd's A-side decisions, PED use, referee favouritism, catch weight advantages, and ducking, you still have to imagine a scenario where he can somehow outbox SRL. That is absurd to think it would happen, and Floyd would never have fought someone as dangerous as SRL.

Only a blind Floyd fan could consider a Floyd win.

 

SRL beats Jnr worse than he beat his Daddy...