Razor Ruddock '90 vs Evander Holyfield '90

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  1. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Lets just say that Holyfield makes his first title defense against Ruddock and not Foreman. Who takes it? I realize the fight would be in 1991 as Holyfield won the title off Douglas late ‘90. But the 1990 versions of both going into an early clash in 1991.
     
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  2. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hard to say. Many fighters during these years found excuses not to get in the ring with Ruddock. Razor had all the tools to beat Holyfield, but grossly lacked discipline in the ring. Ruddock always had a penchant to leave his jab in the dressing room or the gym, and never brought it to his fights. It was frustrating to watch him against Tyson, Lewis and Tommy Morrison, because he tried to load-up on the left-hook-uppercut smash without setting it up with his jab.

    A disciplined, focused Ruddock without all the extra-curricular garbage from Murad Mohammed probably stops Holyfield late, but I'd lean more towards Evander winning by concerted UD. Ruddock could turn this fight into a brawl and is the favourite in that scenario. I just see him trying to land the smash too much in this fight and losing many rounds to Holyfield.
     
  3. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    probably Holyfield ud, don't feel rudduck has the tools or skills to knock Holyfield out.
     
  4. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Holyfield. Maybe Ruddock has an edge in physical gifts, but he was never able to bring it for 12 (or 15) rounds like Holyfield.
     
  5. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I meant to pick Holyfield by decision.
     
  6. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Ruddock was a big one punch hitter, but not a good finisher. He didnt put punches together well to finish off an opponent. Thats whats needed to put Holyfield away. I could see Ruddock hurting the brawl happy Holy of 90, but I cant see him finishing him. Holyfield by decision or late round stoppage.
     
  7. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Holyfield by decision.
     
  8. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think that Holyfield would knock him out and finish off the myth that he "couldn't hurt HWs" earlier than he did.

    Here's why. Ruddock was long, powerful, and very dangerous, but he left more open windows than a New England home in the summer. Holyfield had precision. He would step inside the wide arcs of Ruddock and nail him on the point of his chin. Ruddock often left that chin high enough in the air to stick a flag on it.

    Holyfield is among the great counterpunchers in the history of the division. Ruddock is made for him.
     
  9. hobgoblin

    hobgoblin Active Member Full Member

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    holyfield would do what tyson failed to do. he'd brutally knockout ruddock with his counter punching and merciless assault. ruddock would end up looking like tyson against holy :lol:
     
  10. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Holyfield by UD after a brutal, thrilling war.
    The more counter punching used the better, but I believe Evander would spend most of the fight brawling with Razor. This will be a harder fight for Holy than his tough battles with Steward, Cooper & Dokes, but as the better fighter he will prevail, while getting rocked several times along the way, however lefthook already explained that Ruddock lacks the ability to finish him.
     
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  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    LOL :lol:,

    I like that expression. I'm gonna have to steel that one and use it from time to time, so don't be surprised if you see it some of my other posts.....:good
     
  12. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holyfield via clear decision. Ruddock tended to get hyped up a lot on account of his two fights with Tyson,which bemused me. They were,after all,losing fights.
     
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    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    :good
     
  14. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe Holyfield has a difficult time holding up to Ruddock's power and he's not going to knock Razor out. Evander likely counterpunches his way to a UD win, but gets KO'ed himself if he stands and trades with Ruddock.

    If Razor fights smartly, uses the ring and the neglected jab that got him his nickname, he could beat up Holyfield just like Lewis did the first time, if not worse. Discipline is the key here, and Razor likely reverts to his undisciplined self, loading up on the smash while Evander counters him round after round after round.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm very suprised 7 out of 17 have picked Holyfield to stop Rudduck. Holyfield couldn't stop Holmes/Foreman but he's stopping a man a much bigger puncher in Tyson couldn't stop? This is a 205lb Holyfield, who was pretty undersized at HW, Holyfield isn't a big puncher for his size either

    Holyfield is the better boxer and technician, so I picked him, but he was a better boxer/technician against Bowe too. Rudduck may well be able to use his size to outbrawl this version of Holyfield, although I'd still go with Holy.
     
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