Razor Ruddock '90 vs Evander Holyfield '90

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  1. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Wow.
    One of the few posts that actually make sense. Yeah, Holy would probably stop Rudduck, but it would be after taking a huge combination. I figure Razor doesn't have the jab, skills, or speed to give holy trouble. but he does have the size. So I figure if Rudduck DID land his "smash", Holy would take it well.
    Holyfield TKO 10 Razor Rudduck
     
  2. clark

    clark Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield could take anything Ruddock threw at him and would have stopped
    Razor by the eighth round.
     
  3. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I highly doubt that the beefed up cruiserweight stops a real heavyweight in Ruddock. Ruddock could take a shot and could beat Holyfield if he boxes and uses his jab. Do I think Ruddock would box and use his jab? Probably not, but I don't think Holyfield holds up to Ruddock's power and stops him by the eighth? No way. Holyfield should have stepped into the ring against Ruddock, who was avoided by many fighters in that era.
     
  4. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are correct, somewhat. Throwing one wild punch trying to knock out a prime Holyfield wouldn't work. He's too good a counterpuncher.

    Ruddock lost to Morrison because his asthma gave him serious breathing problems and the vasectomy reversal didn't help. He was not prime against Morrison either.

    I think you also grossly underrate Tyson's power and Ruddock's toughness. The man fought Tyson with a broken jaw and finished the fight? What kind of toughness are you talking about? If Riddick Bowe, Michael Moorer, Bert Cooper, and a much slower George Foreman could hurt Holyfield, there's absolutely no reason to not believe Ruddock couldn't hurt him too.
     
  5. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Holyfield outworks him for the UD, albeit with a view rocky moments along the way.
     
  6. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield had serious whiskers himself, round15. And he was twice the technician that Razor ever was. I would not be too concerned about Ruddock's power. He telegraphed, threw wide arcs, and was careless with his defense. That's fodder for the counterpunching Commander.

    We may disagree on whether Holyfield has the guns to stop Ruddock. I say that he does. He dropped Mercer, king kong jaw and all, he had Bowe on ***** Street with one hook, he nailed Tyson who was a far better technical fighter than Razor and after he did, Tyson had amnesia for the next 8 rounds.

    Holyfield had the guns.
     
  7. les

    les boxerman Full Member

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    holyfield hard earned decision
     
  8. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Ruddock is a serious threat to beat Holyfield in 1990.
     
  9. Valane

    Valane Active Member Full Member

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    Well Ruddock was eating punches against Tyson like it was going out of fashion, Tyson is a different level of puncher than Holy. No way does Holyfield stop Ruddock save fluke punch, real fluke punch. I see Ruddock being very dangerous to Holy in 1990.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    Ruddock was stoppable.
    He had a lot of heart but he could be hit and hurt, and hit some more.
    Tyson was sloppy as hell when he had Ruddock hurt.
     
  11. "a war" lmao any version of evander would **** this average/bum fighter, this guy is overrated like the hell just like uster douglas, every rival who was competent against tyson is considered good for the tyson fanboys. evander holyfield exposed buster douglas(who destroyed to tyson) and evander holyfield would expose ruddock(who was competent against tyson)
     
  12. yes, joe frazier,cooney,norton,lyle,morrison all them were harder punchers than ali but only ali could knock out foreman, right? it is not only about hitting power, holyfield destroyed buster douglas and tyson could not stop douglas, evander holyfield would stop ruddock with combinations any day of the week.
     
  13. Valane

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    Foreman was gassed. Douglas v Holy was a shamefull quit job. I just think Ruddock can take what Holy can dish out more often than not. Ruddock was open though, so accumulation is possible. Holy had a propensity to trade around that time which makes the fight interesting.
     
  14. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yeah I lean more towards this in 1990. I think Ruddock would have a serious chance here, but if I was picking it would probably be Holy by decision maybe coming off the deck. Holyfield wanted no part of Razor Ruddock around this time anyway.
     
  15. yes just like tyson wanted no part of foreman.