Razor Ruddock vs David Tua

That was no slap fest. It set the *record* for most punches thrown & laned by HWs, of course some were lighter, Ike averaged over 80 a round!

It was no coincidence that Ike went...Insane not so long after that fight.
Brain Trauma.

 

If they were throwing with big time power and landing so many punches i think one of them would of had mark on them.
Tua never fought Riddick Bowe. Big Daddy was Bat**** Crazy long before Ike ate his first crayon.

 

Funny line!
But you can see the punches landing, & marks/bruises often take a while to form.
Also the force of a blow is not directly correlated with its effect.
Shavers hit Holmes right on the button with an absolutely hellacious overhand right, maybe the hardest puncher ever slinging it with all his weight. Holmes got up. That does not mean shots landed on others who were knocked out were harder-nor Tyson's single shot as hard because his combination KOed Holmes.

But where is the evidence that Bowe was crazy when Ike was a child, if you meant that line literally?
But he did seem to get some brain damage from blows, just like Ike.

 

Bowe was the Michael Jordan of crazy. In just a blink of an eye made Mike Tyson look happy, joyous and free. In less time than it took Mike. From throwing belts in garbage cans to punching Larry Donald, to Kidnapping Judy Bowe, ofcouse the Marines.
Even a Meth Head would say I need more time to get that done. That's alotta nuts

 

On a serious note. What was Ike's issue? Just one day he wanted to be Batman? Some drugs? I bet it was a women.

 

Schizophrenia

 

He had boplar disorder, & who knows what else. The insanity started after absorbing many huge punches from Tua, likely he was always at risk & that put him over the top.

When you speculate that his problem likely came from a woman, I gotta tell you that sounds disturbing.
Like deep sexism makes you blame females-absent reason-for sick, vicious & criminal behavior.
Which is ridiculous. And especially pernicious 'cause so many guys-including him-victimize woman, so it becomes blaming the gictim.

No rational assessment of some of his behavior below would put either causation or blame on females.
Might as well speculate that it was a kid who set him off or somehow did him wrong, when his conduct inadventley paralyzed one.

From his Wikipedia page, here is a summary of his troubles & madness.
It does not include some crazy sparring stories from after the Tua fight...

Troubles outside the ring
A couple of months after the Tua fight, Ibeabuchi abducted the 15-year-old son of his former girlfriend and slammed his car into a concrete pillar on Interstate 35 north of [url]Austin, Texas[/url]. According to the criminal complaint, the boy suffered 'numerous injuries' from the accident 'and will never walk normally again'. The courts concluded Ibeabuchi was trying to commit suicide, and he was sentenced to 120 days in jail after pleading guilty to [url]false imprisonment[/url]. Ibeabuchi also paid a $500,000 civil settlement.

Ibeabuchi developed a new persona based on his nickname, 'The President'. At times when he was being churlish or refusing to complete a simple requirement such as attending a weigh-in, his handlers would appeal to The President's regal nature by convincing him it was the noble thing to do. "There were times when he thought he was really a president", boxing promoter and former [url]HBO[/url] Sports executive [url]Lou DiBella[/url] said. "He would get into these mental states where he insisted on people calling him 'The President'. It was his alter ego, where 'I am The President,' not of the United States, but maybe president of the world."

Once, Ibeabuchi wielded a knife during a dinner meeting in New York to discuss a possible three fight [url]HBO[/url] deal. "We were having a fine meal at a nice restaurant", Promoter [url]Cedric Kushner[/url] said, "and mid-course Ike picked up a big carving knife, slammed it into the table and screamed 'They knew it! They knew it! The belts belong to me! Why don't they just give them back?'" "That was a peculiar experience", Kushner said. "That wasn't the type of conduct I expected to romance the guy from HBO. He (Ibeabuchi) was like a Viking."[url][2][/url][url][3][/url]

(Skipping his Comeback)

Imprisonment
In July 1999, Ibeabuchi was staying at [url]The Mirage Hotel and Casino[/url] in [url]Las Vegas[/url] when he phoned a local [url]escort service[/url] and had a woman sent to his room. The 21-year-old woman said later she was there to strip and nothing else. She claimed Ibeabuchi attacked her in the walk-in closet after she demanded to be paid up front. Ibeabuchi barricaded himself in the bathroom and police discharged [url]pepper spray[/url] under the door until he surrendered.

Ibeabuchi's legal defense faced the further difficulty of the Clark County DA's reopening of a similar sexual assault allegation against him from eight months earlier which took place at [url]Treasure Island Hotel and Casino[/url]. Ibeabuchi was released on bail and placed under [url]house arrest[/url], able to train and fight again until his trial. He was [url]remanded[/url] after two more similar allegations surfaced from Arizona.

Ibeabuchi was deemed [url]incompetent to stand trial[/url] and was sent to a state facility. Medical experts concluded he exhibited bipolar disorder and a judge granted permission to force-medicate him. Eight months later, two and a half years after his arrest, he was ruled cogent enough to plea.

Ibeabuchi subsequently entered an [url]Alford plea[/url], pleading guilty while not admitting guilt to avoid going to trial. Ibeabuchi was sentenced to two to ten years for battery with intent to commit a crime (from which he was later paroled), and three to 20 years for attempted [url]sexual assault[/url], with the sentences to be served consecutively.

While incarcerated, Ibeabuchi earned three college associate degrees from [url]Western Nevada Community College[/url], in General Studies, Business, and Management. He also earned a paralegal certificate by correspondence from Blackstone Career Institute in Allentown, Pennsylvania. His Las Vegas conviction was overturned by the Nevada Supreme Court in 2007 and he expected to be released, but the lower courts abandoned the ruling. The Nevada Supreme Court subsequently affirmed its earlier ruling of its overturning of Ibeabuchi's Las Vegas conviction again, and Ibeabuchi's Nevada conviction was eventually overturned, vacated (cleared as innocent) and discharged.

Release, planned comeback, rearrest, and rerelease
Ibeabuchi completed his sentence in the Nevada Department of Corrections. Prior to this, Ibeabuchi was moved to the Washoe County Jail on February 28, 2014, and then he was transferred by United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to the [url]Eloy Detention Center[/url] in Eloy, Arizona.[url][6][/url]

Ibeabuchi was released by USCIS in November 2015 as a free man when Nigeria declined to provide travel documents. Ibeabuchi enlisted the help of Mike Koncz, an adviser of [url]Manny Pacquiao[/url], in an attempt to make a boxing comeback. In good health, Ibeabuchi hoped to fight his first comeback bout in the near future, but he was waiting to resolve his immigration and United States citizenship status with USCIS first. He holds a green card and his citizenship was pending only the formal swearing in.[url][7][/url] However, in April 2016, Ibeabuchi was arrested for violating the conditions of his probation in Gilbert, Arizona, based on an old warrant dating back to 2003 that he claimed to be unaware of.[url][8][/url]

Ibeabuchi was released on September 23, 2020 from the Arizona State penal system after serving required time, and his probationary status was overturned on appeal. He is being held at the United States Immigration, Customs and Enforcement (ICE) in Eloy, Arizona, during the COVID-19 Novel Coronavirus period until his swearing in ceremony and the formal awarding of U.S. citizenship can be scheduled, either while in detainee custody or after final release.

Please rethink what you do not mean as scapegoating, but at best amounts to that re: Woman. Thank you ETM.

 

What i said was tongue and cheek. Pointing at the Tua fight with any degree of certainty is disturbing considering you seem to be serious. If that is the degree you need to take it to give Tua props for his amazing power. You should think that out since you are taking this way past socially awkward.
He had 15 fights before that He could had gotten hurt in sparring, it could be accumulation or nothing to do with it.

 

i am glad you were joking: but you should understand that there is no way for anyone who does not know you that it was not the unreconstructed sexism that rears its head sometimes on forums like this.

Were you offended, thus instead of simply disagreeing, apply terms associated with implicit pathology? Which makes no sense inis context.
Whether you agree or not that the Tua fight was the "tipping point" that drive him into Madness: neither position is "disturbing".

By the way, I do not think it is certain, just likely. Granted it could just be a coincidence-just fairly unlikely.
As do many, it seems most. It makes sense that it is more than possible given the effects of head trauma, & when he began insane & criminal behavior.

Likewise, it is...Without rational cause, to put it politely, to label it at ALL "socially awkward" if I think that effect is evidence for his power.

Not that this is a major factor: given the testimony of many opponents, a particular referee referenced here, how his one shot power bailed him out when he was losing...Yeah he had top notch, Ruddock/Bonecrusher/Old Foreman/Bruno.PED Morrison like power.

 

Great fight. 50/50

 

Ruddock stops one dimensional tua … styles make fights and tua coming forward getting hit with that uppercut … he gets stopped for the 1 st time

razor ruddock stops David tua in 1o rds
Not counting past prime ruddock who fought Morrison he was shot to bits

 

If Tyson couldn’t stop ruddock then tua never would !!!! Ruddock from89 92 was baddass and would have stopped one dimensional David tua

 

Agreed

 

So Tyson doesn’t stop ruddock but tua does wow

 

Ruddock needs to be careful he doesn't suffer the same fate as the quiet man.

And I think he can be that careful


Ruddock by wide decision.