razor ruddock vs jerry quarry??????

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  1. anut

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    look at tyson/ruddock 1.............by rd 2 tyson was drilling ruddock to the body /even ferdie pacheco said this body attack is killing razor ruddock/ but i agree with you tyson didnt really go to the body against ruddock in the rematch until rd 9..........and yes i agree if tyson was like he was in jan of 88 against holmes he probably would have put ruddock away/
    non the less quarry beating mac foster or lyle doesnt really mean he would beat ruddock/ ps i got tons of quarry fight on dvd and im a fan of his....
     
  2. mr. magoo

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    Agreed,

    Lyle and Foster had nothing in common stylistically with Razor Ruddock, and in truth, may even have been lesser punchers. Jerry Quarry really only faced one man who's best hand was his left, and got the **** beaten out of him twice by that man... Now granted, I don't think that Ruddock's left can be compared to the left of the said " man ", but the pattern is definitely there... To dominate Ruddock, you had to be a guy who was both physically and stylistically imposing... Quarry may well have been the better fighter for all practical purposes, but head to head this may have been a brutal matchup for him..
     
  3. El Bujia

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  4. Sister Sledge

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    Ruddock's size and strength would have been a problem for Quarry. I find it funny that posters are just remembering the Ruddock that fell in love with his power. I think Razor was a much better fighter before the Dokes fight.
    Ruccock could actually box, and had a good skill set, but after the brutal Dokes knockout, he was led to believe he was the biggest hitter in boxing, and he acted like it. It hurt him in the long run, because he stopped using his boxing skills and his movement and became more flatfooted.
     
  5. mcvey

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    Floyd Patterson worked Razor's corner for some fights,he stated Razor showed boxing skills in the gym but ,once in the ring, he forgot about his jab and ,went left swing happy.
    Floyd gave up on him eventually ,because he would not listen.
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    -They used their jabs.

    -You know Foster KOed Liston with one punch in sparring. Just sparring, but it turned some heads and had Liston signing the praises of Foster's power, and he did score a knockout in every win. Maybe we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss his power as inferior to the Razor.

    -Mac Foster's money punch was his jab and left hook to the point it was almost all he threw...sounds like someone we know? That's how Quarry figured him out and why Ruddock could be in for a long night. You know Foster was coverted southpaw, right? Magoo, you might be in deep water with this one lol
     
  7. The Mongoose

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    -Well, even against Holyfield, Tyson landed some meaningful body blows but it wasn't exactly the focus of his offense or something he stuck with. This isn't the same as to what Quarry did to Foster.

    -Of course it doesn't but its a pretty stong indicator.
     
  8. The Mongoose

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    I believe it. Interesting the way Ruddock would always start fights on his toes with good posture, pumping the jab. But than sometimes by even the end of that first round, he would have his hands at his side, walking around upright, just measuring for the big swings.
     
  9. mr. magoo

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    I see him jabbing with his left and throwing his right... Doesnt' look like a south paw here.


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-O2z-mjRkA[/ame]
     
  10. The Mongoose

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    converted southpaw, he fought in the orthodox stance but his left was his natural strongest arm and his left hook was his money punch that scored or set up most of his KOs. Quarry had that hook scouted and didn't let him get it off.

    "DiFuria said Foster was a natural southpaw he turned over "

    Read more: [url]http://fresnobeehive.com/sportsbuzz/2010/07/memories_of_mac_foster.html#ixzz1YmkJxds3[/url]
     
  11. mr. magoo

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    Didn't realize that ... Thanks
     
  12. FlyingFrenchman

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    OMFG, a Jerry Quarry thread on the EastSideBoxing Classic Forum!

    Ruddock by brutal KO. Quarry would be a bloody mess before being dropped by a left hook (Smash). He'd get up but the ref would stop it.

    Ruddock was taller, with a longer reach, heavier, stronger, punched harder and didn't cut easy. 6'3" with an 82" reach and 230 solid Lbs. He would also be able to take Quarry's best punches.

    Ruddock developed a bit slow. He turned pro in 1982 at the age of 18, he weighed in at just 183 Lbs. He didn't fight very often early in his career. He struggled in a draw vs. Phil Brown (who's record was 7-20) and he was stopped in 8 by veteran David Jaco. In 1986 he won a split-decision over former champ Mike Weaver and slowly started to gain respect. He knocked out the usual suspects like Ken Lakusta KO1, Reggie Gross KO2, and James Broad KO1.

    He stepped it up a level in 1989 when he took on Bonecrusher Smith. He was dropped but got up to outbox and eventually stop Smith in 7. Smith was out for several minutes.

    In 1990 he took on Michael Dokes. he stopped Dokes in 4. Dokes was out for several minutes. He was considered one of the best HWs in the world at this point. Many ranked him #4 behind only HW World champ Buster Douglas, former HW World Champ Mike Tyson, and future HW World Champ Evander Holyfield. Not bad.

    In 1991 he took on Mike Tyson twice. In the first fight he held his own vs. Tyson but was stopped in 7. Most felt ref Richard Steele stopped the fight too early and this set up a rematch. In the rematch Ruddock also held his own. He lasted the distance and lost by decision. Ruddock was down twice and suffered a broken jaw.

    In 1992 he stopped Greg Page KO8 and Phil Jackson KO4. By Oct. 31 of '92 Tyson was in jail and Ruddock was about to fight Lewis. The winner would get a shot at the Holyfield vs. Bowe winner... Holyfield and Bowe had not yet fought. Ruddock was considered the man to beat based off of his performances vs. Tyson.

    Lewis stopped Ruddock in 2. Bowe beat Holyfield by decision. Bowe didn't fight Lewis. Lewis was proclaimed WBC Champ.

    Ruddock didn't do too much after the Lewis fight. He lost an exciting fight vs. Tommy Morrison (LKOby6) in a bout many felt he would win by KO. He did drop Morrison in the 1st round. He weighed 244 Lbs. for the fight.

    Ruddock won his next 10 fights (9 by KO) before retiring but none vs. top fighters. He finished 38-5-1 (29) overall and believe it or not he never fought for a major HW World Title. He was the IBC Champ for a short time following his win over Phil Jackson (who entered the fight 25-0).
     
  13. TheGreatA

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    After reciting the story of his career, what exactly makes you think he would brutally KO Jerry Quarry?
     
  14. FlyingFrenchman

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    True, Ruddock had the ability but would rather slug sometimes.
     
  15. FlyingFrenchman

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    ...cause Quarry is the most overrated fighter on this forum