Re-scoring Bernard Hopkins vs Jermain Taylor 1

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  1. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

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    But I must say I'm glad I rewatched this fight, as I had Taylor winning 115-113 last time.

    Rounds 4, and 5 were really ****ing close. . Probably gave those to Taylor last time, but I saw Hopkins JUST BARELY NICKING them with the cleaner shots this time. . .

    This reflects the evolution of my boxing knowledge, as I saw Hopkins do things this time, that I missed last time. . . NOTE: I was JUST getting into the boxing game on a full-time, hardcore basis right around the time this fight took place.
     
  2. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This fight was difficult to score because both fighters didn't take the action. One of the most boring fights in the history of boxing.

    However, Bernard should have won the fight.
     
  3. king khan

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    It wasn't as bad as I initially remembered it. . . But yeah, definitely not the best fight in the world. . . And I agree, very hard fight to score. . .

    You have to appreciate Hopkins' mastery of the game. . I've never seen a boxer make every punch count like he does; save maybe Mayweather, or Wladimir. . .
     
  4. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No way the Harold Kellerman scorecard was right, B'Nard didn't lose all first 6 rounds but he lost the second and that round when Taylor lost his temper for being cut on the head and blood steaming down and came forward in a rush, showinh no respect. From round 7 on it was all B'Nard and closing the show with his man protecting himself and against the ropes. I had 7 rounds to 5 which is a 115-113 for Hop. He won the second fight according to punchstats and Quensberry rules too.
     
  5. king khan

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  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    I'm gonn check this out tommorow.
    Your thread inspired me today & I broke out the tapes.
    (Watched me some OG ODLH fights & some Martinez scraps)

    I'm gonna dig this one up.
    I'll post my card tommorow.
     
  7. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I always felt like Hopkins won both those fights. Poor Taylor - worst reign in middleweight history.

    Make a case for him losing both hopkins fights, drawing with Winky, losing to Corey Spinks (he really didn't have much effective aggression - I scored that fight for Spinks), looking lackluster against Ouma, and then the only fight he definitively was on his way to winning in that destruction of Kelly Pavlik turned real sour and into a KO loss, though the ref could have stopped that fight because Pavlik looked done early.

    His most dominant looking fight was spoiled by Kelly knocking him spark out. Then the rematch with Pavlik was pretty close. I really feel bad for Taylor.
     
  8. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought the first fight was a draw. Hopkins won the second fight IMO.
     
  9. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought Taylor won the first fight or should I say Hopkins gave away too many of the early rounds. That is the facts and trying to reinvent history just doesn't work.
     
  10. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Taylor won both fights
     
  11. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I had BHop winning both. His shots were cleaner most of the time. Lots of rounds are close, but you can pick out the spots Bernard landed flush more often.
     
  12. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I called the first one a draw. Say what you will about JT...He gave Hopkins more trouble than virtually anyone else X faced in the period of time that extended from the start of his middleweight reign through to Calzaghe. And though you could make a case that X maybe the third and fourth based on clean punching and defense, he didn't appear to be in control at all and seemed to be reacting to Taylor a bit in those frames. Bernard did come on later, but was digging out of a pretty deep hole by that point.
     
  13. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :? I think you mean 115-113 my friend
     
  14. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    More than likely mate, it was 2am :verysad

    Fell asleep soon after posting that.
     
  15. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

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    So that's why you DUCKED your pwn!

    PWNED! :bbb