Re watched Alexander vs Kotelnik

This is a decent thread , i like your point , but im somehow confused how you score a fight :huh so throwing arm punches and " stay busy " punches shouldnt really be counted as anything meaningfull offensively , is that what your saying :nono

In that case Clottey beat Pacquiao right ??

Kotelnik didnt do enough , if he would of upped his output and done what he done to Devon but slightly more of it , he would of took a decision , im sorry you cannot give Kotelnik the fight where he sits behind a tight guard looking to jab all night , you just cant ..................

Specially when Alexander is throwing a variety of combinations at Kotelnik all night long , mixing it up , changing his pace , looking to fight !! Alexander won this for me , not because he won but because Kotelnik didnt do enough .

 

i scored it 8-4 in favor of alexander ......kotelnik gave out too many of the early rounds......i think a rematch would be a lot closer tho!....

 

Kotelnik was the clear winner of that fight.

 

I scored it 118-110 for Kotelnik.

Worst robbery I've ever seen.

 

funny thread

Kotelnik got robbed, and most of us saw the robbery a mile away before the fight ended.

St.Louis, Don King, new contract from HBO there was no way Alexander was going to lose that night except if he had been KO'd.

 

Blatant robbery. Worst I've seen this year. Alexander displayed some of the most ineffective punching I've ever seen, whereas Kotelnik consistently caught him with clean and effective shots.

 

Clottey wasn't interrupting Pacquiao's offense, and Pacquiao was landing to the body frequently and at least trying to generate scoring blows.

Alexander was staying so far from Kotelnik that most of his punches wouldn't have landed even if Kotelnik's hands were behind his back. He was just punching to appear busy. Add to that the fact that he didn't even try to change levels and hit the body, and the fact that Kotelnik consistently interrupted Alexander's ineffective combos by landing one or two jarring shots and driving Alexander to the ropes.

I usually score fights for the active fighter if all other things are equal, but in this case Kotelnik was landing more punches period, not just better punches.

Sources: Me. I do the exact same thing when I'm getting beaten up in sparring. I get out of range and throw a lot of punches so that the coach will think I'm at least trying when in reality all I'm trying to do is not die lol.

 

first 5 rounds to devon. next 7 to kotelnik

 

Maybe some people are beginning to forget that in all that ringsmanship, fancy footwork and pretty angles theres actually a fight going on. And i like to see the winner of the fight being the one doing more actual fighting, landing hard shots on their opponants head and body. Anybody can go throwing lots of pointless punches into thin air or on glove.

 

As an unbiased observer, I thought Kotelnik won that fight so clearly that the judges who scored it otherwise should never be allowed to judge another fight in their lives.

 

Kote won that fight....to be honest....i think the crowd thought so too because there wasnt much to celebrate for Devon either......


i thought Kote won that fight clearly cant see how they scored that the way they did.....crazy

 

I don't mean to be a dickhead, but if you scored that fight 117-111 for Alexander then you genuinely do not understand what boxing is. At all. I'm not being a ****, I am no fan of Kotelnik, but that is an absolutely pathetic attempt at a scorecard. Really, truly awful. Kotelnik was a clear, clear winner.

 

1. Clean, effective punching;
2. Effective aggression;
3. Ring Generalship; and
4. Defense.

 

Kotelnik landed pretty effectively yes, the fight was close, def different than Mora vs Mosley, where Mora wasn't landing ****. Mosley was being the more clean effective puncher. The only thing that Mora won on was defense, how the **** could u score it a draw.

I think they short changed kotelnik, I still had alexander winning but only by a small margin, maybe 1 round. But of course it was in St. Louis no way he was winning a decision