Re-watched Miranda-Abraham.

Yes, i know but like i said, it was Abrahams biggest fight and he seemed defeated after the 6th round. And if styles make fights (and they do) then Pavlik would be a horrible matchup for Abraham, cause Pavlik will bring it worse than Miranda. With or without the broken jaw Abraham was still looking sloopy and was horrible technically.

 

OK Tom, so lets discuss the farce that was this fight. Miranda was penalized too harshly and clearly won this fight. What do you think?

 

So if no fighter will beat him at MW, how is he overrated again? He just knocked out the lineal MW Champ, what else do you want from the guy?

 

OK i get that, he has a whole lot to accomplish before he is consider an ATG, but you gotta admit, in this year alone he beat the best MW's the division had to offer in Miranda and Taylor by brutal KO's. Ive never seen in our time a lineal champ get KO'ed like that. So, i get what youre saying that he has to do more to be an ATG, thats obvious, but i dont see how hes overrated.:huh

 

Ok, good points, but what do you say bout the 10th round when Abraham was clearly hurt and Miranda was gonna finish him and the ref kept jumping in asking Abraham if he was OK? Ive never seen that b4 in a championship fight! Complete BS, he was clearly gonna be finished. And like i said b4 the 10th and 12th should have been 10-8s for Miranda, go back and look at those rounds, Abraham does absolutely NOTHING!

 

Pavlik has already done more at MW than Hearns and RJJ in the sense that he is lineal by beating the man and has 2 belts in the division.

 

Ok i agree with your assessment about the Lineal title but the fact is he beat the man. While you say he doesnt clean out the division he did beat the best fighters in Miranda and Taylor. Assuming that he fights Sturm and Abraham, who do you got in those fights?