reach vs height

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  1. Muresan80

    Muresan80 Member Full Member

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    Vitali has short reach for his height, but...
     
  2. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would have to say Height .

    Look at Mosley vs. Cotto .

    Sugar had a 7 inche reach advantage against Cotto . It didnt help him win at all and he was badly outboxed by Miguel . Despite that advantage , Miguel prove he can still easily get to Shane .

    Reach advantage dont really mean much IMO .
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Reach with long reach you can fight tall.:deal
     
  4. 11player

    11player Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Reach all the way. Height will not help you inside the ring unless it is paired with reach.
     
  5. josip

    josip Guest

    ...but is very tall and has a bigger reach than most heavyweights
     
  6. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    a taller boxer leaning forward will be taggable to a boxer with longer reach 1st, by definition. the example you use is hardly a case of all else being equal. lovely avi, btw.
     
  7. Fnatic

    Fnatic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think most of Rahman's reach was his wide chest, I doubt his arms are longer than Wlads.
     
  8. josip

    josip Guest

    the chest is not being measured. reach is measured from the armpit to the end of the fist.rahman has a freakish reach.he is 189 cm tall and has 208cm reach.similar example is Steve Cunningham with 190 cm height and 208 reach
     
  9. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    height means nothing if you dont have the reach to establish distance. it doesn't mean anything if you have the reach, either. comparatively, reach wins out ten times out of ten. marvin hagler proved that, so did dwight braxton aka dwight muhammad qawi.
     
  10. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well it doesn't really matter. The desire to win is much more important.
     
  11. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    cotto was also the much better boxer, period.

    so, in all honesty, neither height nor reach matter more than the ability to utilize one's tools.
     
  12. sean1982

    sean1982 Active Member Full Member

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    Hmm, struggled? By virtually shutting them out on th judges cards??? Ok not a very good example...

    On topic i would say reach.
     
  13. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Reach technically is from the armpit to the end of the fingers, or vertical reach, how high you can toch on flat feet. It seems this quote means to take both arms extended to the end of a fist, wxcising finger & chest length. Maybe this measure of reach is one that I am unfamilar with. WHERE can one find such statistics? I imagine Sonnt Liston's +11" ape factor was slightly less impressive if you took out his huge fingers & chest measurement.

    But to the question at hand: it is pure folly to cite individual examples of successful fighters with varying reaches or wingspans & use that as evidence re: whether this factor is important. Of course reach is only one factor amongst so many to considr, & even if there is a strong correlation there would be many exceptions.

    It seems that all other things being equal it makes a difference. Human beings on average have around exactly the same wingspan as height. Whether you look at the greatest boxers or the avage guy, they tend to have a wingspan several inches longer than average.

    And it is not plausible that this is because this is from freakishly long fingers or shoulder width. Hence on averge it helps, though you can be champion or an ATG or ocasionaly a candidate for GOAT with an average reach.
     
  14. Ipay4leavingNot

    Ipay4leavingNot Active Member Full Member

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    Height. Tall guys can just lean back and be out of range. Long arms can still get you hit
     
  15. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends on how you use them, usually the more height/reach are immediate advantages in the heavyweight division...other divisions they come at the expense of weight so not as advantageous as Heavyweight... where reach and height are pretty much advantages unless you suck :dead