real hw ranking and chances against wlad and vitali

Great rankings. You got it mostly correct as of right now.

I do feel Bryant Jennings and Seth Mitchell will crack the top 10 soon. But as of right now, seem like good rankings. I don't know if Fury is a top 10 HW tbh, but won't argue that much because of overall lack of quality from 4-25.

K2, Haye and Puluv in terms of talent stands way above the rest.

 

:rofl U guys are British I see.

 

1. Vitali- can't see anyone beating him. Would really like to see him go out though with a win over Haye or maybe Potvetkin.
2. Potvetkin- I really think Haye and Potvetkin is a pick em. People point at Hayes decimation of DelBoy as evidence of Hayes superiority over Potvetkin, but DelBoy aint a gold medalist HW with a resume that's a top 5 in the division. Potvetkin does have seriously good footwork and punch variation, and he takes a shot pretty well too.
3. Haye- rate him over Adamek and Solis because I think he'd beat them H2H. Wish he'd become a fighter again, b/c there are literally 5-6 very intriguing matchups besides Vitali out there for him.
4. Adamek- pick against him every time. Every time...he finds a way to win. H2H though, I'd rank him like 10th or 11th.
5. Solis- As easy as Solis is to criticize, the guys got some serious talent. Good power, but aint really a closer. H2H matches up well with anyone, including #2 down.
6. Helenius- this is of course depending on successful surgery. Depending on the effects of the torn rotator suffered prior to his bout with Chisora, I see Helenius overcoming the hand trouble easily. He'll beat just about anyone they can put in front of him atm, that is, that will get in there with him.
7. Pulev- I could see Pulev beating Adamek, Haye, and Solis with his superior jab alone, but he's showed little offensively besides that L hand. Defensively as good as most in the top 20, but still lacking that finishing ability despite his last 2, arguably his best wins, Dimitranko and Ustinov being KOs. They were officially KOs, but seems he mighta ended em earlier had he showed a deeper offensive arsenal.
8- Tyson Fury- IMO, I got him a bit artificially rated, but he has made a good run of it early on. He's showed good finishing ability and a toughness most other aint. I see him beating most of the top 20 and he could pull a few upsets in the top 10 if he put his head down and made it happen.
9- Chris Arreola- Tough power punching and unrelenting style. Solid beard and a tough nut to crack....BUT...unwillingness to fight other contenders keeps him consistently LOW in the top 10.
10. Wach- hasn't really had much opportunity to step up before this title shot, and I doubt he'll do much more than his predecessors, but I can't pick anyone out of the top 10 to beat him, and imo, he'd turn a few domes inside the top 10.

Honorable mention- KJ. Yeah, Kevin KINGPIN Johnson. Seems his contract disputes are behind him. Solid boxing abilty and better power than he lets on, had he figured Hamer out a rd earlier, he'd have won the Prizefighter, and likely be in the talks for this upcoming title fight.

 

Jesus chris Pulev beats Ustinov and he's in the same class as Haye? You gotta be kidding me.

Put it this way, if Fury or Price would have beaten Ustinov nobody would be hyping them up.

 

Here's Pulev's cv at HW

Ustinov KO
Dimitrenko KO
Sprott KO
Walker Points
Rossy KO
Skelton Ko

Now can you honestly say Haye has a better cv at HW?

 

Haye has won a world title. Has Pulev? No he hasn't. Haye will go down as former HW champ, Pulev won't. And come one? Ustinov is a poor mans Valuev.

And I would argue Valuev would beat all of Pulev's best opponents, including Pulev himself.

 

Good ratings list.

I just don't see anybody doin jack **** to either of the K bros tho. VK is vulnerable cuz he old now, but if he in top form, he won't lose.

I never understood the hype on Helenius about a yr ago, and he the one who was gettin the most attention. Anybody who gets KO's is an excitin addition to the HW division. But I don't think he got it in him to handle either of the champs.

I think we'll get a good series of fights in the next yr or so when these guys start scramblin to pick up VK's belt once he retires and vacates it. I'm sure thats why Arreola ain't pressin for a Wlad fight.

And I'd luv somebody to beat Povetkin's ass. I'm sick of him.

 

No he didn't. He won a regular title. I know how much that annoys you and Sky TV but there you go.

 

Ask yourself, would Ustinov be able to go ten rounds against the Klitschko's, Haye or Price? And would they have got stunned a few times like Pulev did? I very much doubt it.

 

Aye, probably.

 

Lol. Some boxing fans.

 

He didn't even do that. Chagaev was the Champ but they wouldn't sanction the Klychko fight as being for the WBA title so when he lost the belt just vanished into thin air and Valuev's Interm Title was "elevated" to the Regular Title.

Both Valuev and Haye were co-promoted by Don King at the time and it was all his doing. Haye won a Don King affirmitive action, suitcase full of money corruption bribed paper title. Which is fitting because it was as phony as Haye himself along with his "win" against Valuev where he threw 12 punches per round. Haye's "signature" HW win ladies and gentlemen.

P.S. Let's not forget a 46 year old Holyfield had just beat Valuev much more convincingly right before Haye did.

 

So Vitali hasn't retired?

 

Rankings based on match results: 1) Wlad 2) Vitali 3) Povetkin 4) Haye 5) Chambers 6) Pulev 7) Adamek 8)Arreola 9)Helenius 10) Thompson

H2h ranking as of today: 1) Wlad 2) Vitali 3) Haye 4) Pulev 5) Chambers 6)Solis 7) Thompson 8) Fury 9) Adamek 10) Povetkin