Real Story on Greb-Flowers I & II/

What a five year old. So I take it you dont want anyone to see this trailer that is your lifes work that was designed for public consumption?

You have my phone number and email, have these cops that you "grew up with" :roll: call me. If you think cops scare me you are sorely mistaken. First, they have no jurisdiction here. Second, Ive done nothing wrong, particularly in light of the fact that you freely gave away what you are trying to pretend was stolen. Third, I know, even if you dont, that had I done anything wrong, which I havent, this would be a matter for the courts, not the police (who wouldnt touch it with a ten foot pole). Fourth, I also know that if you actually had the money to pursue it in court (which we both know you dont) you would have to pursue it here in Illinois, not easy and not cheap. Good luck Ed, forgive me if Im not losing any sleep over your empty threat.

A polygraph? Lol. You realize people reading this can see how crazy and stupid you sound minute by minute. Dont you think an easier solution would be to produce the emails and correspondence you say you have that proves you right? Wouldnt it easier be to produce your research in regards to Greb-Flowers that prompted this discussion to begin with? No? You cant stand by actual facts and want to bet on an imaginary polygraph (which Im assuming would be administered by these cops you "grew up with" 2,000 miles away with me not present, in addition to the fact that a lunatic who actually believes their own bull**** can pass a Polygraph and you are rapidly straying into that territory)? Sorry Ed, youve already lost one bet and Im still waiting on my $1,000 for that.

Now, explain why you dont want anyone to see a trailer that you spent twenty years on, that you call your lifes work (which you seem to think so highly of) and which was designed for public consumption? Its an easy question to answer.

 

Easy Its been packaged with luminaries and optioned.
If you fk with it you'll regret messing with them.

in addition to the fact that a lunatic who actually believes their own bull**** can pass a Polygraph
Chuckling at this lame cliche excuse. Hes scared!


Steve you've proved your mettle in an esb flame war that lumps you in with the decline of western civilization and achieved a lifetimes banishment. You might want to keep that in mind when assessing character.

 

So.... I take it I wont be hearing from your cop buddies... or your attorney...

Im really scared that your "luminaries" are going to come to Illinois and attack me in any sense of the word for you. So let me get this straight: If I fk with your trailer the "luminaries" that have packaged with your documentary (whatever that means) are going to come after me? Not you, the only person who has an interest in this project, but the people who are being interviewed in it or the long dead semi-celebrities you have clips of mentioning Greb's name... Keep barking little doggie.

Usually when a film is ready to be released that is exactly the point that a trailer might be most effective, yet its BECAUSE your project is ready for release that you DONT want the trailer released. Does that maybe say something about your trailer or the project as a whole?

So when can we expect this star studded "optioned" masterpiece to be hitting cinemas, TV screens, or store shelves? No date in sight? Come on, surely if you dont want your trailer released you can give us an ESTIMATED release date. I didnt think so... Sounds like the same hot air youve been leaking for 15+ years.

So once again: No emails to back up your claims. No sources to back up your claims that started this. Nothing but empty threats. Out of the two of us which has cited rock solid first hand sources and posted word for word emails from you to back up what hes saying? Me. I think we can see on whose side credibility falls.

So a year from now when nobody has seen your documentary much less your trailer what then? Will you come back here and pretend its still in the works? Just like you were doing nearly 20 years ago to anyone who take you seriously? Wasnt this thing supposed to be finished back in 1999 at the latest? I'll bet you cold hard cash our documentary is finished and released to the public before yours and that if yours ever does come out (which I doubt) ours will be seen as the authoritative piece. Hows that for a bet? Not that you would ever pay seeing as how you owe me $1000.

 

And you wanna go around on these forums claiming you gave me all my information on Greb .


Lets take this into dispute resolution and double the bet. I never made any such claim.

 

You did Ed and you know it. You edited your post but there are people who saw it and informed me of it that know as well. When I called you out on it you edited it but it still reads like you were some kind of major influence on my work just like the other post you made that I quoted above where you called me your "student." Face it Ed, you are the only one making ridiculous claims that you cant back up. Ive done exactly two things: 1. Illustrated that your original comments in regards to Greb-Flowers 1 were inaccurate. and 2. Illustrated that you want to take some measure of credit for work that you had nothing to do with. Those are facts and they are well illustrated here. You have done absolutely nothing to back up either of those points in your favor. You want to go to dispute resolution, fine come here to Illinois and we will go to dispute resolution. I will come with a stack of emails, records showing how and when I obtained the information you think you gave me, your posts on these forums, and the emails of the people who pointed them out to me. If you even showed up at all youd come totally empty handed and look like the moron you are. Gawd! What a keyboard warrior. You are as bad as those idiots who act like they will actually fight each other when they dont even live on the same continent. "Dispute resolution." LOL. But once again, you deviated the argument into another direction from where it was previously without addressing or answering anything. Youre weak Ed. WEAK. Just keep posting. The more you post the more people see you arent really offering anything of substance. Pretending to be an actor doesnt make you one. Pretending to be a historian doesnt make you one. Pretending to be a documentary filmmaker doesnt make you one. Pretending to be my mentor doesnt make you my mentor. Get back to me when youve got a release date for your project other than "TBA."

 

And you wanna go around on these forums claiming you gave me all my information on Greb.

A post was made on Greb Tunney 2. That's one fight folks!!
How and why you morphed it into the above??? I have no clue. Its nuts!!

 

"This work was begun by me."

"He started out as my student."

"You called me over and over and over."

"You wanted an interview with me to be a FEATURE of your book."

Should I go on Ed? How is anyone supposed to misconstrue that? Was I your student? Did you contribute ANYTHING that ended up in any of my posts, research, or book on anything related to Greb? Did my book feature you AT ALL? Did my book mention Buck Glenn (who we never discussed)? Again, explain to me exactly how you had any impact on my book whatsoever. For shits and giggles lets say you were never born. Do you seriously think my book turns out any different? It doesnt Ed and you cant honestly say that it would. Telling me "uhhh Greb-Tunney 2 was mentioned in Boxing Blade" two years after I already had that article doesnt give you the right to claim you gave me anything on Tunney Greb. Imagining that you told me about a friend of Grebs that isnt even mentioned in my book and for which I already have everything I currently have on him does not mean you influenced my book. Me asking you a question and you not answering, playing coy, or giving me incorrect information does not entitle you to claim I was your student. If my science teacher in high school only taught me one thing and that was that the sun was made of cotton candy and years later I become a noble prize winning scientist should I give that high school teacher any credit? You are that high school teacher Ed. You want credit for something you didnt do. You got credit for what you did. You saved me $30 in the price of gas it would have taken to drive to St. Louis and pick up Greb's service record, which I already knew existed and where to find it and which didnt end up in any way shape or form in my book. Thanks. Your contribution was duly noted in my book. Youre famous, congratulations. Other than that dont mention my name in regards to the fantasy you have about yourself again and I wont continue to point out your monumental and epic failures as a documentary filmmaker and a human being.

 

This thread is comedy gold