Realistic evaluation of Wilder

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  1. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Joshuas resume:
    Kevin Johnsson - same level as Duhaupas - never had been stopped before
    Jason Gavern - looked better than Wilder.

    Helenius resume:
    Samuel Peter - blasted him out faster than Wlad.
    Franz Rill - upcoming, unbeaten prospect - how many of those have Wilder on his resume?

    Fury'a resume:
    Kevin Johnson
    Chisora
    Klitschko

    Wladimir resume:
    ...

    Alexander Povetkin:
    ...

    Based on resume alone, He's around top 10. But based on H2H he's outside of top 15-20 somewhere.

    You need to not just look at the names on the resumes, ****ys is as well.

    Wilder isn't checked yet against a tall, rangy natural built heavy with decent skill. Like many of the names that I listed earlier. And why isn't he yet??

    Because they don't believe in him... He's a fraud. A fake. A paper champ. A Haymon puppet, A Haymon cash cow. Yet to be exposed.

    Maybe he can win against Povetkin just based on his size combined with his speed, but against speedy big guys that will nullify Wilder's advantage? Hell NO.

    Bogdan Dinu would expose Wilder:
    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV7T5xNL39w[/url]

    Otto Wallin would expose Wilder.
    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9HCuqNQhrE[/url]

    Adrian Granat would expose Wilder.
    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryAbwiAy9Lg[/url]

    Hughie Fury would expose Wilder.
    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XvoD8kYfUw[/url]

    Tony Thompson would expose Wilder.
    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MydOYzmNAqs[/url]

    Jospeh Parker would expose Wilder:
    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPKJGwJMTS8[/url]

    Arnold Grejgjaj would expose Wilder.
    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvkghc-Qg9I[/url]

    Izugabe Ugonoh would expose Wilder.
    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a1lmJwJrfY[/url]

    Just to name a few.

    And that's only based on the fact that they all possesses the needed requirements for the job to be done.
     
  2. killerD

    killerD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wilder is a joke with a paper title.
     
  3. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    When Wilder ducks him will you make a new alt Mr Pibb?
     
  4. ki_ote

    ki_ote Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He appears to be on the Fedor Diet Plan.
     
  5. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    I would like to invent something called "Range-effect" or whatever. How much space a fighter could travel in a hurry.

    Wilder is 6"6' 1/2 with an 83 inch reach. He is also fast. Thus I would give him a range effect of a 10 as a base of measure. That is his absolutely biggest advantage over his foes.

    David Haye: Height: 6"2' Reach: 78" Speed: Wilder fast.
    Range effect: 8

    Luis Ortiz: Height: 6"4' Reach: 84" Speed: Average+
    Range effect: 8

    Wladimir Klitschko: Height: 6"5'+ Reach: 81" Speed: Fast.
    Range effect: 8

    Arthur Szpillka: Height: 6"3 Reach: 75" Speed: Average+
    Range effect: 6

    Eric Molina: Height: 6"4' Reach: 79" Speed: Average-
    Range effect: 6

    Johann Duhaupas: Height: 6"5'+ Reach: 82"+ Speed: Slow.
    Range effect: 6

    Tyson Fury: Height: 6"7'+ Reach: 85" Speed: Fast.
    Range effect: 9

    Hughie Fury: Height: 6''5'+ Reach: 83" Speed: Very fast.
    Range effect: 10

    Joseph Parker: Height: 6''4' Reach: 77'' Speed: Fast.
    Range effect: 7

    You could also separate footspeed and handspeed but this is just an example of what I mean with Wilder's advantage.

    I see at "Range effect 7" Wilder will have big problems, especially if the fighters also could back up that range with some weight or chin.

    Because he already struggled with Szpillka.

    So don't compare rangy and fast but weak fighters such as Cunningham or Scott.