Reality Check Time! Oleksandr Usyk is Still The P4P Number One Fighter On The Planet. This Is Why...

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  1. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Nah
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Let’s just invoke the “never beat a prime ATG rule” on Inoue while we’re inventing fanboy logic.
     
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  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Wlad almost won" he lost. Got knocked out. When people talk about the fight they mention Wlad giving a good effort and joshua overcoming him. Usyk has a better resume but it's not alot better and Crawford has the best win out of the 2. You overrate Gassiev, Huck, Fury, Glowacki, Briedis and joshua. Postol is about as good as Good as Glowacki or Huck. You diminish the likes of Gamboa, Burns, Indongo, Horn and Porter like they are just fringe contenders. A shot Kell Brook and Shawn Porter is better than old Chisora. Dubois is no better than Horn. Beating a champion in Madrimov in his 154 debut adds to his resume. The way Crawford obliterated undefeated Spence is about as good as Usyk beating joshua. Past it Canelo is better than past it Fury who just scraped by an mma fighter.
     
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  4. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    He's fought two people isince 2023
     
  5. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    You are just repeating yourself now and ignoring key points that I have brought up. You are the one moving the goal posts lad and going around in circles. We are not going to agree on the subject and you have already tried making this debate personal like other cry babies who have been banned. Usyk's resume is a lot better than Crawford's and that is why I rate him as number one. You have admitted that Usyk's resume is better but still rate Crawford higher :lol:
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're the one claiming Usyk is the goat. Moving the goal posts and bringing up Canelos resume when it craps on Fury and joshuas

    Crawford has the better win. Canelo is an atg, Fury and joshua are not. Crawford unified 2 divisions before Usyk. Crawford KO'd everyone at 147. Crawford wasn't fighting the same guys over and over.

    We've never seen a former light heavyweight become super middleweight champion yet Crawford just did it, meanwhile we have already seen a former cruiser become a unified heavyweight champion in Holyfield, and this is even more noteworthy when the talent pool in the lower weight classes is larger compared to cruiserweight and heavyweight
     
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  7. Joeywill

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    I respect this response

    Should be noted how close Usyk vs Briedis was

    I don't think Crawford has ever been in such a close fight
     
  8. MidniteProwler

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    A lot of Canelo's resume is smoke and mirrors. You are not going to convince me that Crawford beating Canelo trumps Usyk in anyway. What Crawford has done is his career is great but what Usyk has done is incredible. As I said Usyk's resume is better and another thing that should be taken into consideration is he did it all on the road as the away fighter.
     
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  9. MidniteProwler

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    Yep it was close but Briedis was an undefeated world champion and Usyk beat him as the away fighter. Crawford has not done anything like this.
     
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  10. NoNeck

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    He beat three people who stack up favorably against any three of Inoue’s wins.
     
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  11. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Fury Aj and
     
  12. NoNeck

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    Spence, Madrimov, and Canelo.
     
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  13. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Oh you mean Crawford I thought you where still talking about Usyk fine Inoue Crawford Usyk if it makes you fell better inoue/ Crawford then Usyk
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No, he was in one that was even closer, against Madrimov. Briedis doesn't have an argument that he won, Madrimov does.
     
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  15. CST80

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    Arguably his win over Canelo is more akin to Usyk's win over Marco Huck. Former longtime divisional kingpin with a ton of questionable decisions on his record on his way out of the door, who had a few decent wins in the lead up to the match against Usyk, only difference is, Huck was only 32 when he fought Usyk. Canelo is 35. I mean Crawford is the same size as Canelo, AJ is much larger than Usyk.

    Janibek would be a decent but largely unproven scalp for Crawford, and he doesn't have any signature wins on his record, like Gassiev did. But yeah, I'd be willing to rank them in the same ballpark.

    If Crawford beats a Bivol, Beterbiev or Benavidez, yes... that would be truly impressive and laudable achievement worthy of praise.
     
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