Reality time for Khan

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by doylexxx, Aug 14, 2012.


  1. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he's found his level, he will fight a few more Salitas until some bum or old man wins a title by default or something, then quickly step in and snap it up.

    His ego will rise to ridiculous levels yet again and he will talk about getting strong-guh and Mayweather before getting sparked again.

    That's if one of the feather fisted bums he fights in the meantime don't knock his block off.
     
  2. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he wants to save his career he will LISTEN to roach take advantage of the wildcard and rebuild , yes fight lesser opponents and I dont always say that, but he IS one more loss away from retirement and that's just a fact.

    He has not been successful at world level over the last year, his career has nose dived.

    He has been found out and exposed not only for the already known weak chin, but for his ponderous defense , as well as inability to listen, a new coach wont change that at all.

    The only saving grace is that hsi chin is weak, so he doesnt take as much punishment in his brutal defeats.

    khan has been talking about a Garcia rematch or another title fight. If people around him cared they would not advise that.

    He is like Ortiz, expected to do big things but has proven that he cannot hang at world level and we're not talking the P4P guys here.
     
  3. welsh_dragon83

    welsh_dragon83 Active Member Full Member

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    i do belive khan has got to build himself up from almost the start again, he needs a few easier fights for just now, how about mccloskey, theophane, witter or matthew hatton.

    he can become a world champ again but got to stop talking about fighting money & manny
     
  4. Uncle Rico

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    I agree with you on that. He needs softer opponents for which he can re-build like you say.

    But wanting to jump straight back in with the best, is hardly a thing to criticise him for.
     
  5. kimonerz

    kimonerz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's not as good as he thinks he is.
     
  6. sosolid4u09

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    :lol:

    Seriously no matter what khan would do, twats on here would hate on it.

    At the end of the day, the fact that he's changing trainers shows he's trying to take positive steps to help his career. I've heard him point out his deficiencies for the first time ever. Also you need to stop saying two losses. As far as anyone should be concerned, the Peterson loss should be written off.

    So seriously, what do you propose he do from here on? What would please you (other than jumping off a cliff)
     
  7. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For me , it comes down to him being unrealistic.

    Step back and look at when Prescott crushed him. He had a new trainer, never gave the guy a chance , fired him like it's all that mans fault. Put down getting dissolved by a fringe contender as a simple "mistake".

    Fast forward to Peterson. No inside game, constant pushing off. Crying to ref when forced to fight inside. Exposed quite a bit in there. He put that down to a man in a hat, biased ref, biased judges. Never acknowledged his errors at all

    Fast forward to Garcia, sparring before the fight showed he had improved nothing , going to war with a guy that has never fought pro, pushing off all the time , leaky leaky defense. Roach teaches really well if the fighter follows orders, Khan declined !

    Gets KTFO in dramatic fashion, its a "mistake" again , maybe a new trainer etc etc.

    there is a pattern here./
     
  8. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol: He moved to the States with a better trainer and enjoyed a re-form in style that saw him win a world title in less than a year, and unify it not long after; climbing almost to the top of a very talented division and at one point sitting behind only a Timothy Bradley. <--- All of this done when everyone said he would never reach world level.

    But nah, that's him being unreastic and a bad person for not sticking with the other trainer. :roll:
     
  9. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its not about this trainer or that trainer he can change them all he wants- that's not his problem, it never was. Maybe he has a hard time staying focused.
     
  10. sosolid4u09

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    How do you explain him going from a devastating ko loss to pretty much unifying the division with a few fights? Sounds like changing trainers did him a world of good
     
  11. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sounds better than what it is, he beat Kotelnik and very shop warn Judah. Guys beat these types of fighters all the time they just happened to have belts,

    both got easy titles it must also be noted
     
  12. sosolid4u09

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    Were you one of those people who said he'd never ever fight a puncher? He beat maidana the biggest hitter in the division. Malignaggi a skilful veteran. Pretty much cleaned out the division except Bradley (who ducked him)
     
  13. Uncle Rico

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    The point is, he was prepared to make changes for the betterment of his career/development, and when he did that, it worked out for the best. Don't see how or why anyone can pick fault in that. And now, he's reached a point where he's realised his defence needs improving massively, and correctly understands that Roach, in this department, may have taken him as far as he could. So there is absolutely nothing wrong with him exploring other avenues. That's what good students do - they're prepared to make changes and leave their comfort zone in the hope of improving their game. If Khan decides to go with another trainer, that's not him putting the blame on Roach. That's just him wanting to move on and further develop.

    (It's worth noting that long before Khan even lost to Garcia, a lot of people were saying Khan may be better off under another trainer.)
     
  14. kommieforniaglo

    kommieforniaglo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    While I think you are trolling for the most part, I do not disagree that he needs to re-think, re-build and get back to the drawing board, even consider maybe a new trainer.

    I think the problem with Khan is he has the skill set, tools, and talent, what he lacks is mental.....He is easily taken away from his strategy, and has difficulty adapting.
     
  15. jeffjoiner

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    I give props to Khan for taking the fights he has taken the last couple of years. He's taken on Maidana, Peterson, now Garcia. Won one, lost one, genuine beef in the other. All were damn entertaining.

    Yes, I would give Khan a bit of a pass if he took a soft touch or two and yes, I think Garcia gets him in a rematch, but I will never criticize a fighter for wanting to avenge a loss and take the hard road.