Reason Haye says he cant fight July 2nd

I think what it all boils down to is this...If Haye wants the fight against the man everyone sees as the true heavyweight champion and wants a chance to stake his own claim for his era then he should just stop talking and fight him....Its unfortunate for Haye that his past behaviors make it hard to take his point of view serious.

 

Make the contract conditional. The WBA's covered then regardless of the result of the Klitschko-Chisora match. In the event Klitschko wins, the Haye-Klitschko unification is sanctioned. In the event Chisora wins, Haye fights the WBA mandatory challenger.

 

No you're talking bollocks.
You asked if a unification fight can only happen if singed 180 days in advance...i pointed out that the unification fight HAS to be signed before early april as a guarenteed unification fight or Haye has to fulfill his mandatory... Haye can't sign to fight Wlad early April because Wlad has a fight late April where he could possibly lose his titles... it's not rocket science

 

Past behaviours?

Pulling out from the Wlad fight when Setanta went under thus zero pay for Haye?
Choosing Valuev over Vitali?
Fighting Ruiz where he had no choice because it was in the options King gave him?
Being unable to thrash out a deal last June with K2 who are notorious for being difficult to deal with?
For finally agreeing to a deal to face Wlad only for Wlad to choose Chisora instead?

BOTH promotions are to blame, K2 aren't angels in all this.

 

You're right. It's not rocket science.

How does that not cover the WBA? And let's remember, it's not like these guys are ethical to start with. Slip some money under a table to them and they'll dance on a pony for you. If there's a will, there's a way, especially with dealing with overtly corrupt sporting organizations. Haye's mandatory challenger is Ruslan Chagaev who the WBA has already f*cked over once to get the belt back on Valuev.

 

If only it was that simple

 

It couldn't be, the WBA gave no extension, no room for barganing, have a contract signed for an official fight as of 3rd of April or be stripped.

 

You guys want something to blame, blame greed and PPV.

 

Example #639 boxing is sh*t then. Perhaps society in general should just stop paying attention to the sport altogether. Then when the money's dried up, all these corrupt orgs and corrupt promoters and fighters that don't want to fight will either fall away or be forced to face one another just to make a nickel.

So, 339 tickets sold for Bradley-Alexander huh?

 

Jesus Christ Mary and ****ing whats his name.

How many more times??????

Haye has to have a signed contract by early April... Because there is no guarentee Wlad will be Champion in July the WBA will not allow Haye a pass his Mandatory on a premiss of ifs and maybe's... It has to be black and white... no grey areas. Haye is either fighting next for unification whereby his mandatory is put on hold or he signs to fight his mandatory. The WBA will not put the Mando on hold any longer for a what if possibility of unification :wall

You just don't sem to understand how boxing as a business works

 

Boxing's always been corrput with everyone out for themselves FR, it is getting worse though.

I always believed at least one of the 2 biggest fights of the last 8 years would be signed by now but I'm seriously starting to have my doubts.

 

I do not see why David Haye cannot give them two contracts, and which one is legal depends on the Klitschko-Chisora match result. If result A happens, contract A is enforced. If result B happens, contract B is enforced. This happens all the time in business.

Now if that's not the case and that's not allowed, again, boxing is one f*cked up sport.

And we're dealing with "the rules of the WBA", the same rules the WBA breaks all the time if it ensures they can make an extra dime.

 

Do you think that the TV companies will settle for that? They put up the money for the Wlad - Haye fight and end up with a far more inferior fight. Can't see it happening - if they're paying that want the fight that they're paying for. I can't see ANY TV company gambling wih their own large amounts of money.

One thing that strikes me about this is (and I'm by no means saying that you're one of them) that as the people who supported Wlad in this whole thing start to learn the actual facts of whats happening, they start to get more and more far fetched with their ideas of what Haye should do. I've heard people say:

- Haye should draw up a dual contract so that if Wlad loses then the contract is void and another one kicks in
- Haye should have a contract saying that if Wlad loses he'll fight Vitali on the agreed date instead
- Haye should give up his title and then he doesn't have to fight a mandatory.

People just start pulling ideas that Haye should do out of their arse, without having any idea of the viability of them.

Funnily enough, these people never say the following things despite them being far simpler and realistic:

- If Wlad would have agreed to fight in England in May when the fight was perfectly feasible then he would not need a tune up. Instead he insisted on fighting in Germany meaning that the earliest date the fight could happen was 2nd July, despite saying that he would fight Haye 'anywhere'
- Wlad should just not fight a worthless fight against an over matched British level Derek Chisora knowing full well that it messes things up.

 

It's funny how you have a dig at a fairly reasonable poster when totally ignoring the biased ignoramus he was quoting.

Maybe it's time you went back to bed.

 

With emphasis on the fairly!