Reason I Believe Both Garcia And Matthysee Are Frauds! While Khan Is the Real Deal!

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  1. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Matthyse being a hype job has long been understand by reasonable fans. His power isn't hype though. But his overall ability is vastly overrated. Once he's able to run through a legitimate opponent, like Peterson (which he won't be able to), then he could receive all the praise in the world. Until then, he's nothing more than a punching prospect.

    Garcia has one good win with a couple of other wins over an 84 year old Morales, and he almost lost to Morales the first time around. Garcia is definitively a hype job.
     
  2. eviltaker10

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    :deal:deal
     
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    Like i said Judah fight was close Alexander fight wasnt close
    Kevin Mitchell beat Prescott Khan couldnt
    that means Mitchell beats Khan
     
  4. gyll

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    I've never heard anyone call Khan a fraud. But ok. Whatever.

    He's overhyped and that's definitely a valid argument. Before you Khan fans get your panties in a bunch I didn't say he is a bum. He's decent. Again, overhyped. That means he got more credit than he deserves. His **** personality doesn't help him gain fans. I like the fact that he is willing to take on all comers as well as his aggressive offense. But that's about it.

    As much as I dislike him I would never want him to leave the sport. This is because he's talented enough to string together a few nice wins which gets his rabid fans to believe he's an unbeatable God. Then when he faces an elite he gets dropped like a hot potato. It's like seeing an arrogant *****'s house of cards suddenly get destroyed by the wind. For me that's very fun to see.
     
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    The funny thing is (if you know how to score a fight) Matthysse beat Alexander which is better than any of Khan's win
    the 2 good people he fought he lost
     
  7. bjl12

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    Khan is among the most talented fighters (aside from Floyd) 135-160. However, he also lacks discipline and so engages in brawling when he should be using his incredible skills and boxing. Hopefully he's learning some good defensive tactics with Virgil and sticks to gameplans.
     
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    If you're being honest then you recognize Khan beat Peterson.

    Matthyse's "losses" were both controversial, and I had him winning both of those fights. However, he lost at least 4 rounds to both Judah and Alexander. Judah has been irrelevant for years and yet he still put up a stiff challenge for Lucas. Likewise, Devon folds at the big stage level, but he still managed to outbox and outwork Lucas early on in their fight.

    What I'm saying is, two close fights (wins) over an old Judah and an overrated Devon don't make someone elite. That's for damn sure.
     
  9. bjl12

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    Also, call me crazy or whatever you want. But someone like Khan could potentially give Matthyse a hell of a lot of problems. Lucas would need to land something substantial in the first 2-3 rounds or else Khan would start closing those eyes... and quickly. His speed is blinding.
     
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    Thing is with the 2 point deductions Khan lost, if he didnt have them he would have won by 1 point
    Regardless of wins and losses when Matthysse comes on the attack (which he didnt do in the Judah fight til round 9) he has mad power, good body shots, picks his shots well and has a massive workrate, you can tell hes elite by the way he fights
    Matthysse's best win is Alexander (he should have won)
    Khan's best win is Peterson (he should have won)
    In terms of wins they both dont have a good win, but anyone who thinks Khan survives 12 rounds with Lucas is delusional
     
  11. SMS Employee

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    :lol: if you knew how to score a fight, kotelnik whooped Alexander who has lost to khan. So no it would not be better than any of khans wins, idiot. :rofl
     
  12. Stovepipe

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    You need to put the Prescott loss in there too chief, but I get where you are coming from. Respect. I go the same way you go, by accomplishments rather than potential. I'm rooting for Matthyse big time right now and I think many will tell you Matthyse had legit wins over both Judah and Devon A so if you are of that mindset, you can make a pretty good case for Matt over AK seeing he had two KO's.
    I think if you look at Soto's record you will discover he had some nice wins against legit opponents, however, I agree with you that it doesn't rocket Matthyse to the top.

    Personally, I wouldn't want a guy like Amir on top. He could have easily done the Prescott rematch instead of someone like Mccloskey but he won't do it. Then he tries to blame Roach / Parkinson's / Pacquiao taking time away, for his downfall and then, even worse, half step on the statement disparaging Roach because he doesn't want to look like a bad guy blaming someone else once he sees how the media reacted.

    What kind of a guy is that? Not my kind of guy.

    Also, you can say "well who has he beat" about anybody and tear apart anybody's record. Soto was a tough, sound, legit opponent with consistent wins over a host of decent names, albeit in lower divisions, and nobody had every done anything like that to him before. He was crushed.

    Also, a name you did not mention is Ajose Olusegun who was far from a slouch and undefeated until LM> He may prove to be something yet and put up a helluva fight. I would love to see him against another top junior welter.

    I think your main gripe is people saying Khan is a joke when he clearly is an excellent fighter despite the two knock outs and well, you are right, the forums are filled with imbeciles.
     
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    Yeah true Peterson and Alexander arent very good wins
    difference is Khan has been fighting on the top level for years Matthysse hasnt
    Khan got ktfo twice Matthysse hasnt
    Khan got ko'd by a guy Kevin Mitchell schooled it doesnt get any worse than that
    Its funny how all the people who hate on Matthysse have Judah and Alexander winning the fights
    i didnt even like him before the Alexander fight but i still had him winning
     
  14. purephase

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    Uh hadn't Peterson folded on the big stage every time prior to Khan and didn't he also win at least 4 rounds?
     
  15. box4life11

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    Matthysse is elite you will see come may 18th.