Reasons why Judah is NOT elite

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by RightCross, Sep 8, 2007.


  1. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    Last night Teddy kept saying that Judah had not lost much ground and is still elite.

    I disagree. Judah is good as long as everything goes his way. How ofetn in boxing at the elite level does that happen?

    last night he dropped 2 rounds to a moderate puerto rican fighter. This guy isnt even a top 100 at welter.

    Baldo, a man with average skills by any standard, beat up Judah.

    Judah is not mentally as strong as Baldo, this is his greatest weakness and this is why he is not elite. Judah can also not sustain an attack through an entire fight.

    Judah has better than average boxing skills, has handspeed and good footwork and a respectable power. What he lacks, mental ability and the ability to sustain an attack and over come adversity over powers his natural gifts.

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  2. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    I dont think it is his attitude that costs him.

    He lacks mental strength.

    Cannot overcome adversity

    and lacks stamina..physically and mentally
     
  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I think some fans, and Atlas in this case, label a fighter ELITE too quickly. I never considered Judah an elite fighter. I save that tag for fighters who win the big fights. Not one who wins the "undisputed title" off one fight against Corey Spinks...
     
  4. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Actually you are wrong on the crap that Baldomir actually beat up judah..He hurt judah in the 6th or 7th but before that Judah was hitting him at will and winning every round...Baldomir caught Judah with one shot that changed the fight and Judah did not get knocked out but did not mount any offense since then. He had a mental breakdown and was well known that he didnt even train properly for the fight and took baldomir lightly. I guess that never happend to elite fighters...Lennox Lewis:think:think- Rahman ..lol Just b/c you drop one to an ok fighter and Lose to 4 exceptional fighters one in which you avenged your loss does not mean you are shot..Zab would be elite at 140 EASY and dethrone any of them guys.
     
  5. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    How did Judah take him lightly if he was winning the whole fight till he got tagged hard? That tells me it wasn't judah taking him lightly, since he was doing great early on. Tells me he's afraid to get KO'd again when hit hard enogh and goes into a shell.

    As for Lennox, he is elite becuase he has a BUNCH of major wins. He beat many TOP contenders when there were more HW's then today. Judah didn't. Don't ever compare the two.:patsch

    Hatton OWNS Judah BTW...
     
  6. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hatton has never been undisputed anything so go **** in the wind with that:hi:
     
  7. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Hatton owns a knockout loss to any slick fighter with more speed and power then him...Collazo made Hatton look like an ABC 123 ****** not by being bigger ..stronger...beating him at his own game...no doing simple moves like sliding his right shoulder and countering the all **** out of hatton with Punches that have COLLAZO POWER..Judah does the same thing but he is faster in moving and in hands and has MORE POWER.....LOOK AT HATTON GETTING SCHOOLED
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRlXRi5MU24
     
  8. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The fact that we was beating Baldomir handily was academic. He was using his elite level talent to outbox and outwork a lesser fighter in Baldomir and when he got caught he held on like a veteran fighter to avoid a KOl loss and in the end he dropped a decision. He was complacent in a fight that he was supposed to win.

    Tszyu, Mayweather, Spinks and Cotto are top level talent anyway you slice it. Losing to those men shouldnt detract from one's legacy. He's still active and IMO has a few big wins in his future.
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Hatton's biggest win is WAY bigger then Judah's biggest win. And an uneducated racist **** like you won't change that.
     
  10. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    That's great....but that's Collazo, not Judah.
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I agree. I just don't buy the "Took him lightly" excuse.
     
  12. hopkinsfan07

    hopkinsfan07 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    judah would beat most top welters


    cotto was just to good
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  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Judah already lost to Baldomir, Cotto, & Mayweather.

    He loses to:

    Williams
    Margarito
    Cintron
    Mosley
    Ouma (when he gets there)
     
  14. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Skills wise...he is definately elite.

    Mentally....not so much.
     
  15. hopkinsfan07

    hopkinsfan07 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    idiot Zab hater

    no way would he lose to Margo, Cintron, prob Williams and would deff beat Ouma