Reason's Why Wladimir Klitschko Is Not An ATG

Yes, about as much as Ray Austin and Jean Marc Mormeck do...

 

The Holmes and Spinks wins on Tyson's resume are better than ANYTHING on Wlad's resume...

 

Do us all a favour and don't post.

 

Lay down the crack pipe. You're just trying to prop up vitalis resume.

Fukin klittards.

 

wow, these fighters are so bad that I am surprised they actually made it to the ring without passing out on the way.

 

This needed to be said.

Instead of people burying their heads in the sand.

All truth.

 

If Wlad's name was Mr America, and was born in US & A, I honestly think he would get so much cred that even fans would think is to much.

And isn't he the HWchamp who have stopped most contenders that never has been stopped before? and the HWchamp who have fought, and beat the highest number of top 10 contenders?

People should give him more creds, and the reasons he hasn't fought another ATG, is because he and his brother have wrecked the HW division.

 

Tyson edges Wlad because he cleared out his division, and has two Hall of Famers (spinks, Holmes) on his resume. As well as excellent wins over Ruddock, Golota, Botha, Berbick. Was the youngest heavyweight champ and Undisputed HW champ, holding the belts.


Wlad is an ATG heavyweight based on his longevity. Losing a few along the way is bound to happen. If your ATG Heavyweight list consists of a top 15 or 20 list, Wlad should be there pretty comfortably.

If you have a strict top 10, then No.

 

I accept your surrender.

 

And I accept your surrender too...

 

i would like to add that version of holmes and spinks is not better then Byrd and haye

 

Wrong. Winning against an old, fat and retired version of Holmes means nothing, just like beating former SMW chicken**** Spinks means nothing.

In a historical context, these two victories are about as meaningless as beating up nobodies like Ibragimov or Byrd in their primes.

If beating an old bum version of a fighter is any good for your record, then why don't we give credit to Wlad for beating up a fat bum version of Ray Mercer? That makes about as much sense.

 

:deal

The American HW landscape has been a complete JOKE for some time and, as an American, I have NO PROBLEM admitting as much...