Recent terrible judging

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Duck Dodgers, Jul 16, 2011.


  1. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    Help me out here, ESB. Not limited to robberies but scores that were clearly too wide count also.


    Malignaggi-Diaz I (one judge had it 118-110)
    Williams-Martinez I (one judge had it 119-110)
    Williams-Lara (robbery)
    Alexander-Matthysse (robbery)
    Alexander-Kotelnik (robbery, too wide at best)
    Judah-Matthysse (robbery)
    Cintron-Williams (was a draw AT BEST for Williams, even though Cintron quit like a *****)

    Cesare-borgia's contributions:
    Shumenov vs Campillo
    Sylvester vs Geale
    Sturm vs Macklin



    Help me add to/remove from this list.
     
  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    shumenov vs campillo
    sylvester vs geale one judge had it like 118-112 for sylvester eventhough he clearly lost
    116-112 for sturm vs macklin was to wide as well.
     
  3. realdeal561

    realdeal561 Boxing Addict banned

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    No way williams was winning those rounds with Cintron. I am by no means a Cintron supporter but that was BS, also his fault for quitting. He acted like he broke his neck or something.

    Williams' team is defentatly paying off judges. Its too much. Ever since the Quintana lost.

    Gift Vs. Cintron
    Got the winning side of close fight with Sergio
    Gift Vs. Lara
     
  4. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IMO. whether a fighter wins by 117-111 or 115-113 doesn't matter and all and there is no robbery...

    Boxers win, draw or lose. The points are only there to guide whether they W, L or D.

    A robbery is only about W, D, L.

    So let up forget about "one judge said he won 1 round, but he clearly won 3!!!" Forget it!! he lost fair and square - who cares if is was by 2 or 4 rounds?

    So let us stick to real robberies.
     
  5. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    yeah but if its a close fight that can go either way like martinez vs williams 1 was and one judge has it 119-110 for pw its logical that people scream robbery because the judge is clearly very incapable of scoring a fight or bribed.
     
  6. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    This is a very, very short-sighted point of view.

    Imagine a fight that was a clear 115-113 win for Fighter A. Judge Dumbass sees the fight 117-111 or 118-110. This means if 2 rounds had gone the other way, Judge Dumbass still would've had the fight scored for Fighter A, even though he had clearly lost.

    Put 3 Judge Dumbasses together and you have Williams-Lara. Put 2 together and you have Williams-Cintron (one of the judges gave every ****ing round to Williams :blood).
     
  7. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    Actually didn't see any of these fights but I'll take your word for it until somebody argues. :good
     
  8. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Strum-Macklin
    Judah-Matthysse

    were definitely not robberies.
     
  9. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Shumenov vs campillo wasa real robbery, I had money on shumenov so I was extremely pissed of that he clearly was losing he won only 2/3 rounds and I was rooting for him, yet he gets the decision.
    Another one is jojo dan vs selcuk aydin
     
  10. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    You need to watch that fight again. Judah didn't land a significant punch the entire night, and Matthysse connected with more power shots in all 12 rounds. Zab was jabbing and running. Alexander actually did better than Judah.
     
  11. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mathysse didn't land anything to the head of Judah for the first 7-8 rounds. And most of his body punches were blocked by arms and elbows. I had it for Matthysse by a single point.

    Alexander was out on his feet in the 7th round. Mathysse won by 4 points in a 10 rounder!!!

    I had Kotelnik up by 4-5 in the Alexander fight.
     
  12. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Guzman-Funeka was pretty foul.

    Casamayor-Santa Cruz was very bad.(sorry Casa)

    Cloud-Johnson doesnt belong. 116-112 may have been a hair too wide, but I thought Cloud still won it 115-113.

    PWilly-Cintron is tough to call as there was so much fight left when the wheels came off.
     
  13. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :thumbsup This was a real robery. A near shutout win for Santa Cruz.
     
  14. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Does anybody remember when Christian Mijares was gettin' really hot around 2007-8?

    His fights routinely had that ONE judge.

    In several instances the scores would be like: 117-111, 118-110, and the 3rd judge would be 108-120. It was absurd, and happened more than a couple times that he'd win a SD with proper scores twice, and the 3rd a shut out in the other direction.
     
  15. Duck Dodgers

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    Casamayor-Santa Cruz is a little older than I'm looking for here. Just trying to compile the last couple years. Williams-Cintron was obviously short, but one of the judges scored EVERY round to Williams which was just insane. Personally I thought Cintron dominated the first two rounds and I gave him the 3rd as well. I could see scoring rounds 3 and 4 to Paul but anybody that gave him rounds 1 or 2 would have to be related to him, paid off or blind.

    Cloud-Johnson deleted.