Record of fighters against Top10 opposition....

Notice how you criticise each of the fighters that PBF fought with "after the fact" hindsight?, except you don't do that with the Pea.

History hasn't written it's final pages on Floyd's career. It has however written the final pages of Pea's.

At this moment in time, you could argue they're near equal, a loss means quite a bit to me and if we're calling ODLH past his prime at 32-33 with around 40 fights then what the hell is Chavez Jr when Pernell beat him?

What I tend to note when people attempt to refute Floyd's belonging in the elite group is that they are very selective on what they list about the other fighters, while scrutanising every little detail about Floyd.

 

We are going on Ring rankings. Manfredo was apparantly top 10. Bika had just fought a draw with Markus Beyer in Germany, and was top 10 also.

 

I conducted some research on Ezzard Charles's record against top ten contenders and here is his record:

40 wins, 17 losses, 1 draw

 

I'm pretty certain Brewer would have been top 10. Just look at the guys he fought in and around the Calzaghe fight: Ottke, Zuniga, Echols, Pemberton. Was highly competetive in all those fights. Besides, he fought like a top 5 guy the night he fought Joe.

 

What I tend to note is that Floyd fans become very sensitive when the facts are laid before them.

 

I did, by mentioning things such as Nelson coming up in weight to face him.

And the problem here is, Floyd wants to face DLH and Hatton again, instead of facing his clear biggest challenge, Cotto. That will not even come close to putting him any higher in ATG rankings. If anything, it will lower him, seeing as how he's facing fighters he's already beaten, one of them way past his prime.

The #1 P4P fighter in the world, while DLH wasn't top 10, or even close. That's what he was.

It all comes down to level of opposition, and willingness to fight the best. That is Floyd's downfall when comparing him to the ATG's. Not to mention he has not been as impressive against his top opposition(outside of the 130 pound division, where he was the truth) as other ATG's.

 

I thought it was something like that. Most of those losses coming when past his prime. The level of competition he faced and beat in his LHW prime consistently is simply amazing.

 

Anyone worked out how SRR did?

 

I'll have his record up in about 10 minutes.

 

It was 43-12 or something alone those lines I believe. Maybe 46-12. Not sure.

 

Sugar Ray Robinson was 45-15-2 against top 10 opposition.

 

lol damn thats insane.... its like two boxing careers in one:yikes

 

And people still question why people rate him so highly.