Referee - Tony Perez 'I Should Have DQ'd Muhammad Ali'

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  1. mcvey

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    Primary source?
     
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    Unless you produce a primary source to prove this ,we must assume you are not only lying, but that you have libelled a man who was renowned for his integrity ie Teddy Brenner.

    http://sports.nyhistory.org/teddy-brenner/
     
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    Definitely an aroma of bull**** about this,Pepe :lol:
     
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    More horsehockey from our lying friend.
     
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    Round 7,

    Absoluetly a 'filthy display' of sportsmanship from a 'dirty boxer'.

    Muhammad Ali grabbed the back of Joe Frazier's neck no less than
    '13-times', and held on for total of '1:25' of a 3-minute round.

    And '7' of those times, he purposely pushed down of Mr. Fraziers head,
    committing an 'intentional dirty foul'.

    Muhammad Ali was an 'unclean' boxer.
     
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    Perez was a great 3rd man, but Ali/Dundee s had a lot of influence
     
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    Tony Perez was a very good third man in the ring, but in January 1974
    he was young man at 43.

    He was 'intimidated by the atmosphere that night'.

    Tony could have easily warned Mr. Ali '4-times' for cuffing, and
    deducted a 2-point penalty in Round 7, and still had enough
    left over to warn Mr. Ali '7' more times.

    What do you call a boxer who intentionally fouls like that,,,,,,,,,,,
     
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    The Greatest! :yep
     
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    And the WINNER.:good
     
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    Intimidated???
    The two judges had it 7-4 & 8 -4.Perez had it 6-5.

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    Ringside Observer,

    Fernando Ortiz,

    "It was a disgrace. Tony should have deducted 6 or 7 points from that
    'dirty man'. A good Referee would have done that. No question, I would
    have Disqualified him. There is no need for that type of fouling in professional
    boxing.'

    'I looked at him, and said 'you are filthy'. You're so dirty you need to take a
    shower.'

    Hey Muhammad !!

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    British referee Harry Gibbs was once in line as a possible referee in a M. Ali world title fight. He was asked from the commision what he would do if Ali grabbed behind the head. Gibbs said: "The same as I would do to any preliminary fighter. Two warnings and then out he goes". Did Gibbs ever referee a Muhammed Alif fight??
    But on the other hand - Tony Perez did some very poor jobs.

    Woller
     
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    M. Woller,

    Tremendous post.........:good

    Mr. Harry Gibbs would have thrown him out, most definitely.
     
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    No, but he refereed Muhammad Ali against Brian London in 1966
     
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    Round 10,

    Again, Muhammad Ali fought as a 'dirty man', with numerous fouling.

    No less than '14-times' he cuffed Mr. Frazier behind the neck, and
    pulled at him.

    A total of 1:13 of the 3-minute Round, Mr. Ali fought very 'unclean'.

    Not one warning by Tony Perez, and he only slapped at Mr. Ali once.

    Clearly a round, in which Mr. Ali should have had at least '4' warnings, and
    at a minimum a 2-Point deduction.

    Joe Frazier won the round, and with proper penalties, it should have been
    a 10-7 Round, but with New York Scoring, it could have been called for
    Joe Frazier as a 3-point Round.