Ref's stoppage of Jones - Green was premature

There goes Roy's head clean into the first row, and people would still be calling it and early stoppage:nutcase

 

I don agree with you saying the stoppage was premature. Jones was wobbled badly and although he didnt take any shot after that he stood there and didnt throw back. He stood here and took the shots on the gloves.

 

fights like this is the reason i like it when refs impose a standing 8-count. jones didnt go down a second time, but he wasnt throwing back for like 30 seconds. he looked hurt, but nothing serious apeared to be landing after the knockdown....so what should the ref do?

i think being the ref at that point is a tough call - and thats why i think doing a standing 8 would have been good. Not throwing back for that amount of time is an indication of being "out on your feet," so I say give him a count in order to verify exactly where his head is. then stop it.

jones did stumble against the ropes after the knockdown, so I can't complain so much about this stoppage. Definitely not a BAD stoppage, but it's one that's not a 100% definitely should have stopped it.

 

no, not throwing back doesn't necessarily mean you're out on your feet.
Roy Jones not throwing back is irrelevant here, what is relevant is if he was still able to defend himself or not. If you're not able to defend yourself anymore then it's evident a KO is going to happen and the fight should be stopped. But to me it seemed like Jones was still able to defend himself despite not firing back, and that's why the KO was not certain to happen. Thus the stoppage was premature. Of course Roy was in trouble and he got caught with some, but it wasn't CERTAIN at the point of the stoppage that he was going to get KOed.

 

my post wasn't very clear - not throwing back CAN be an indication of being out on your feet. So from the Ref's point of view, he must consider the fact that RJJ wasn't throwing back when deciding what to do.

Yes, jones was defending himself (obviously this is why not so much damage was landing on him after the knockdown), but covering up in a shell and not throwing anything is a serious stoppage indication to any referee. But I do have to say I agree that the KO was not certain to happen given the amount of time left in the round.

Still there's been way worse stoppages, and it's more than likely that RJJ would have lost had someone like smoger been the ref.
Really, what do you expect from him, he's not juicing anymore and he's like 40

 

Did you see Roy staggering backwards into the ropes after the ref separated them? How do you account for that?

 

You have gotta love all the RJJ Haters on this forum, cmon guys the stoppage was premature, Green only landed 3-4 out of 40 punches thrown since the kd, Roy was covering up well and actually threw one or 2 punches back, WATCH the replay. Danny also did 2 illegal things whilst Roy was covering up like pulling Roys head down in order to hit him on top of it and also pulling his arm away to try to get a clean shot in.

Danny had puched himself out by the time it was stopped, he had nothing left to throw so he was just hitting his guard with average punches, the ref is a bum and should never ref a fight ever again, premature stoppage 2 illegal moves by Green and no warning.

You watch Roy after the stoppage, he actually says to the Ref, cmon give me a chance, then he heads to his corner and has a small chat with his trainer, he was fully aware of his surroundings and knew what was happening, RJJ's defence style is exactly what he was doing, he guards up and takes no damage waiting for the correct time to start throwing back.

I agree he was wobbled but he was still standing and fully protecting himself, go to youtube and watch RJJ highlights, he decimates ppl for like 1-2 minutes or even whole rounds and the refs dont stop the fight, ive seen him knowdown ppl 4 times and they arent stopped, 1 knockdown is not enough to warrant a stoppage. If RJJ had have gone down a 2nd time then maybe stop the fight but he didnt and he was weathering the storm, as i said b4, Green had puched himself out and was gased by the time the ref stepped in.

I am a RJJ fan he is my idol, I am also a Green fan as i live in Aus, I was at the fight and you could see the dissapointment on RJJ when the ref stopped it, he knew he could go on but the ref was a d.i.c.k

Anyways RJJ wants a rematch check out this link (http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26437877-5009280,00.html) he also wants Green to not play stupid stalling games and whine about how Roys hands are wrapped, what a pathetic excuse for the amount of time he wasted, just let him fight with his hands wrapped the way he wants them wrapped. They were obviously wrapped legally as they have to be signed off on by an official.

I think Danny should take a rematch and then we can see how he goes with a ref that will actually let someone whether a storm and come back later in the fight. Not that RJJ will need it, he will decimate Green if he actually unloads, Green struggles against fast opponents and RJJ is the fastest of fast, so he will struggle big time if it happens. If he doesnt take a rematch he is a girl and this win will be a tainted win for the rest of his career, it is one of the biggest jokes in the history of Australian boxing and needs to be rectified via a rematch, if he beats RJJ again then good on him but I really cant see that happening, RJJ is too good even at his age.

Thats what i think, let me know what you guys think i will be checking back lata.

Peace.