Regarding Floyds Legacy....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Jan 6, 2015.


  1. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not like Floyd is a spring chicken anymore. He's soon 38 years of age and his physical attributes has diminished over the years even though he's still great.
    So in my opinion all fights now are enchances his legacy since it proves logevity.
     
  2. likeafire

    likeafire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyds legacy will be this.......A coward who avoided the pacman.

    When people mention floyd in years to come, the first thing that people will say is he ducked pacman. He destroyed his own legacy by being a chicken.

    The only way he can be considered a true legendary great is if he fights pacman, but obviously that wont happen cause floyd dont want it.
     
  3. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    so as of today... is floyd mayweather a hall of famer?
     
  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Absolutely, no doubt about it.

    But legacies consist of far more than whether or not they get inducted into some over-sized garage in Canastota that tries passing itself off as a legitimate sports museum.

    :smoke
     
  5. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    that's all that matters. If he's in the hof. As a kid trying to be a professional athlete the greatest achievement you can have is making the HOF.


    You can't eat a "legacy". Arum and Roach can talk all that about floyds resume "needing" pacquiao but the reality is, it doesn't. He's a HOF lock and there isn't a higher achievement you can accomplish in any sport. Floyd probably just wants to finish these last two fights. Make his last 150-200 million and just enjoy his family. If you were him would you give a **** about your "legacy" if you have 200 million and like 4-5 kids to keep happy?



    ali sold his legacy for 50 million
    lot of boxers have great legacies but can't even speak properly or pay their hospital bills.


    who would you rather be? Broke for the rest of your life with a great legacy or rich for the rest of your life with a questionable legacy... you tell me.


    joe calzaghe has a questionable legacy and people don't even talk about that guy anymore. He's irrelevant.

    and yeah I want him fight pacquiao but realistically the fight matters far more for pacqauio than it does for floyd.
     
  6. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By your logic, it "matters" the same to Pacquiao since he's a surefire HoF guy too and it can even be debated he's in higher standing than Floyd. At this level, it's about where you're considered in the HoF. I would say as things stand, Floyd's somewhere in the top 50(as well as Pacquiao). Had he made the fights he could have made though, he could have been regarded in the top ten. As it stands, he could still make a late run and get himself in the top twenty but it doesn't look like he's going to do that.

    If he values money/health more than his legacy, that's fine. But he can expect to catch flak for it when he does that, starts his "TBE" campaign, and is saying stuff like he's better than SRR with nothing to back that up.
     
  7. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Anyone thinking that the fight matters more for Manny than it does Floyd does not know a thing about Boxing.
     
  8. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    who cares what he thinks lol. It's his opinion, it doesn't mean a damn thing.


    In reality there is no top 10. There is no top 20. There is no top 50. you can ask 100 different people and everyone will have a different top 10. The fact alone that people say he "should" be in the top 10 is probably enough for floyd. There is no real top 10. The only thing that is real is the hall of fame. Floyd has been in that for a few years now and so has pacquiao.
     
  9. boxing_master

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    Duckweathers legacy is not fighting manny pacquiao
     
  10. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your logic is one in which you're effectively saying athletes shouldn't strive to be the best they can be as long as they can reach a certain level. Michael Jordan would have still made the HoF easily even if he had retired prior to winning a single championship, but think about how he's regarded now(the general consensus GOAT at his sport) versus what he would have been if he had been "satisfied" to reach a certain level and then didn't try to surpass it. Think about how many spectacular moments the fans would have been deprived of. That kind of logic takes away a lot of the magic of sports imo.

    Ultimately, you seem correct in that apparently Floyd does not care about striving for a higher level of greatness than what he's achieved, even though he doesn't mind talking like he's already reached the pinnacle. It's fine if he does that, but in the eyes of the fans in general, it's a fairly sad thing, and when he talks like he's in the same class as the fighters who actually strove for better, he deserves criticism.
     
  11. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Corrected. Don't project your hatred on the rest of us :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  12. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I get what you're saying but I disagree with you. Not fighting Pacquiao technically will ruin his legacy because the fans decide your legacy. So while he doesn't need the fight financially, it will elevate him passed Pacquiao.

    Me personally, I feel like it won't hurt his legacy, but it'd give it a historical boost. Even if it is less valuable now than it was 5 years ago.
     
  13. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Pac's admirers will place Pac over Floyd out of pure emotion lol
     
  14. boyschoir

    boyschoir Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he'll retire undefeated :good

    50-0 *

    The Best Ever!

    no doubt about it :rofl