Regardless of who wins, Pacquiao ranks higher than Mayweather

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  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is a chance Manny loses this fight, but it really doesn't matter in terms of his legacy. He still ranks inside the top 25 of all time. Unlike Mayweather, Pacquiao's stock can only go up. If he wins, he's top 15/20. If he loses? It's irrelevant, really. However, Mayweather's stock improves if he wins but if he loses? His resume is very weak and I don't see him being ranked inside the top 100.

    For Mayweather, this is a make or break fight for his legacy. For Pacquiao? His legacy is set in stone.
     
    Jack, Dec 5, 2009
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  2. suicide booth

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    I agree. The pressure is all on Mayeather here. He's a natural Welter. If Pac get absolutely dominated then that is all that will really diminish what's been done, in my eyes.
     
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  3. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ATG rankings are based on Achievements and Pac will be ranked higher than Mayweather

    thats why Duran is ranked so highly despite losing to Leonard, and Hearns.

    And Calzaghe dont rank higher than Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr
     
    realsoulja, Dec 5, 2009
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  4. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    I'm not a ranking nut..

    But how does Arguello rank Vs. Pryor?
     
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  5. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    but duran lost to hagler right?
     
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  6. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So? That means nothing. Styles make fights and That may just be it. However, Pacquiao is more proven and has a solid legacy.

    Last time I checked, William Joppy was pretty far behind Roberto Duran, anyway.
     
    Jack, Dec 5, 2009
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  7. Godfather

    Godfather I put the G in God Full Member

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    Here comes Rooney, Nallege and Jeff M...
     
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  8. vegasdude

    vegasdude Speed is Power! Full Member

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    Agree if PBF's stock dramatically going down if he loses. If PBF beats Pacman dramatically by KO or TKO then this will help PBF tremendously. If he only beats him by pot shots and running, no help at all.
     
    vegasdude, Dec 5, 2009
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  9. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    when peaple look at pacs record in the future they wont consider the stages in careas some of his opponents were at. oscar severly weight drained and a finnished already ricky hatton all of hi outher great wins i have no problem with

    i love the guy but for ****s sake i hate nuthugging *******s "top 25 ATG" EVEN IF HE LOOSES TO MAYWEATHER its generous if he beats him

    floyd beat oscar up at 154 ,undefeated ricky hatton
     
    hagman1989, Dec 5, 2009
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  10. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    so if he wins at boxing his stock in boxing does not go up:huh:huh:huh:huh:huh:-:)-:)-(
     
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  11. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I don't get it. Pacquiao is supposedly the greater fighter than Floyd, yet Floyd's stock would go down if he lost to Pac but Pac's stock wouldn't go down if he lost to Floyd? That doesn't make sense. Anyway, Mayweather will go down as the greater fighter if he wins. Ditto for Pacquiao.
     
    BigReg, Dec 5, 2009
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  12. hmm

    hmm damn chairs Full Member

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    hmm says . . .

    if PBF beats Pac, we need to see what else he does after that will further his so called "legacy"/ ATG ranking....

    too early to say.. wait until both fighters' career is over..
     
    hmm, Dec 5, 2009
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  13. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    I can't agree with this. This is not a make or break fight for either fighter's legacy. I agree lose or draw I don't see how you can rank Pacquiao below the top 25 of all time no matter what happen's. But the same can be said for Floyd. I hate the guy as much as the next but I honestly don't see how anyone could rank this guy outside of the top 100 all time. He's just soo unbalievably good. Him and pernell whitaker are easily the best two boxers I have everseen so really I don't know how anyone could fathum him not beening in the top 100 cause of a lose at the end of his career.
     
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  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They're all terrible posters who know nothing about boxing as a sport. They just follow Pacquiao's opponents and trace through artcles, finding anything remotely negative about the man himself.
     
    Jack, Dec 5, 2009
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  15. Rooney

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    you seem worried?
     
    Rooney, Dec 5, 2009
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