Relax about Dirrell vs. Froch...

Exacatly, I can't believe the reaction.I was rooting for the kid but the start of the 4th I thought Forch was the boss and was the one who was fighting.And the challenger was on his bicycle, holding and complaining and falling over.Exactly right, this is not the amateur it's the pros.You have to take away the belt and engage.

 

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Any fight where your corner is telling you, you need a KO in the 12th is not a "robbery" if you lose, even if you did have it for Dirrell the over reaction in this place to any close points fight is always typically the same. Dirrell I thought showed class when he was asked if he could win a points fight in Nottingham afterwards and he said "of course I could". He nor his corner didn't act like such ******s, some people need to think before they type.

 

"Negative tactics" is the key term.

When you throw less than forty punches a round, move with no purpose other than moving, and give off the impression that you are being physically manhandled, you are going to lose on neutral turf, let alone in your opponent's backyard.

Great post IB.

 

So you haven't seen much of Kessler and with little to no information to make an educated assessment you're predicting a Ward victory. lol Thanks for sharing

 

spot on, and having your opponent charge foward with his hands down with no regard for your power isnt exactly effective ring generalship or a display of punching.

Plus with all the running and the clinching,(coupled with his face after the fight), he didnt look like a WINNER to me. A draw woulda been ok though, but he certainly didnt TAKE the belt from carl. Nope, not with that disgrace :-(

 

See, I was waiting for Dirrell to throw "clean counters" and hardly saw any. He was really just sticking that jab out from time to time, and occasionally trying to fire a half-assed right behind it a few times a round.

He didn't dictate pace at all, unless falling over or through the ropes once a round was dictating something. We just saw very different fights tonight.

 

As a long term fan, I can't fault anything you say about this match being conducted according to the rules, but in 2009, with world wide coverage & millions of dollars involved, the rules may need a revision if the fan base & money is going to continue.
Defensive boxing is one thing, but when it gives way to doing anything to avoid engagement, it's becomes suspect to call it a "fight".

I'm not just talking about this fight. I mean the whole scenario.
Like it's one thing to hold in the later rounds, but walking an opponent backwards every chance you get from the start, crosses the line with "Fight plans"
Boxing is competing with MMA & MT. We see how long they put up with non-engagement because they know it sours people who are told they are going to watch a fight, when all they get is the squandering of time.

Dirrell has excellent skills, but until he has confidence enough to trust his evasive powers, he might win a title, but he won't retire rich, because his style is pretty hard to sell.

JMO

 

I agree, but what did Froch do? Chase him. He in turn should have done more when Dirrell slowed down considerably, but he didn't. I was pretty disappointed at that. I rooted for Froch, not because I care two bits about him, but because I called he would win - ahead of time.

I did find the match hard to judge, because not alot really happened, and it was dead ugly.

I see your points. But when a round is tight, you have to go by something - Frochs aggression, or the few clean shots that Dirrell landed?

Never heard that anyone has been faulted by "spoiling" the fight... But maybe they gave a new meaning to No contest.

 

You didnt see CLEAN COUNTERS? Are you kidding me? He rocked Froch twice with just that...and did it consistantly throughout the fight.

 

This maybe your best point here. Although its hard to imagine JT beating anyone in this tournament. I'd have to say with Kessler and AA coming up Froch's days are numbered. And frankly with AA next you can pretty much say the same for Dirrell. Pitty this dude fights like an amateur he's go some seriously impressive skills.

 

**** dude you need to watch DLH Tito. Wasn't as ugly but there's a difference between sprinters and boxers......sprinter's don't win rounds.

 

I see where both sides are coming from.

It's a shame that Dirrell turned the judges against him by going out of his way to hug and lean on Froch. He clearly out-landed Froch and this fight would've gone down as a schooling had it not been for his tactics.

 

Neither Froch or Dirrell is winning the tourney anyway. Ugly fight that was.

I had Andre winning by a couple of rounds.

 

Not if they don't land, but Dirrell did land a few. More than Froch anyways.