Religious folks: Ever wonder why you tend to be less intelligent and less educated?

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  1. Sonny's jab

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    I'm guessing you can approach the altar as long as you keep you glasses on. Assuming your vision with glasses is pretty good.
    Obviously, the blind can **** off out of it.
     
  2. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, Sonny, I did not answer his questions and explained why. The reason is simple. Crippet has an axe to grind and is demonstrably incapable of having an open mind. It would be an exercise in futility --particularly because the response would necessarily be a long one.

    However, since you have requested an answer, I will oblige you -check back tomorrow evening (U.S eastern time).
     
  3. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it is important to return questions to you. Explain what you know about the reasoning behind this passage. Explain, for that matter, why the Israelites were burdened with hundred upons hundreds of commands from Yahweh.

    If we are going to engage in a theological debate or a discussion, there really should be some understanding from the dissenters as to what they are dissenting against. You need to approach this with one of two things -either (a) an open mind or (b) an understanding of what it is you are dissenting against.
     
  4. dpw417

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    I am not a biblical scholar by any means, but I'll attempt to answer your questions. The scriptures you are referring to are Old Testament, meaning that Jesus Christ had not been crucified for mankind's sin. Thereby enabling men to freely pray to God. In my study Bible. When Christ died on the cross, the curtain in the temple was torn in two. this sybolized Christ's work on earth. The temple had three parts; the courts for all teh peole; the Holy Place; where only priests could enter; and the Most Holy Place where only the high priest could enter once a year to atone for the sins of the people. It was in the Most Holy Place that the ark of the covenant, and God's presence with it, rested. The curtain that was torn was the one that closed off the Most Holy Place from view. At Christ's death, the barrier between God and man was split in two Now all people can approach God directly through Christ. In Old Testament times...No you could not approach the altar period it seems. Only the high priest and he (the high priest)according to Lev. had to be without defect as possible, and that would be in accordance to the tenement to sacrifice animals without defect as well...In the times of the Old Testament it was necessary to do so. But folowing the crucifiction and ressurection of Christ, it is not necessary, in this day and age.
     
  5. Stonehands89

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    I am still waiting for two things from Crippet. The first is for him to acknowledge his bad assumption about my alleged "low level of education" and the second is what his education is.
     
  6. ChrisPontius

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    My apology if i offended you. However, whatever i stated were critical questions in regards to religion, not religious people.


    If i said "**** Jesus, God is an *******", etc etc, then i could understand if you think that was lack of civility on my part. But i think my questions were legit ones and relevant to the discussion of religion.
     
  7. Sonny's jab

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    I have an open mind.
    I assumed commandments about people with defects staying away from the altar is because people with defects are considered "un-clean" or unworthy to touch holy articles.
    Similarly, woman on menstrual cycles shouldn't pray.
    But I dont think this is an important issue/question.
    I consider them secondary, they are rituals rather than significant beliefs that demand explanation.
     
  8. Sonny's jab

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    In the New Testament doesn't Jesus tell the people that all the laws brought by the earlier prophets should be obeyed ?
     
  9. Stonehands89

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    Well said, and you have satisfied both (a) and (b).
     
  10. Stonehands89

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    Good post, although I wouldn't take Chris Pontius's loose language as an assault. He speaks colorfully...

    As for the impropriety of this thread on Classic that some are complaining about -I disagree. I for one never visit the lounge and very rarely go to the General forum. I think that intellects on Classic are superior to the rest, although I am mildly irritated with a few posters who decide to jump in here for the first time to bad mouth the religious.

    This is a little respite from pugilism. A rest between rounds.
     
  11. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I think i've made more enemies during this rest between rounds than during all my tirades during rounds. :lol:
     
  12. AnthonyJ74

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    I'm an Agnostic. For me, that's the best position. I just don't see how anyone can believe wholeheartedly that there is or isn't a God. Nobody knows for sure. The Bible might very well be the Word of God, or it might just be a collection of man-made stories passed down from an imaginative and ignorant group of people.
     
  13. Stonehands89

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    Haha... although I think I've caught a bit more hell than you out here! I had no idea how uneducated and gullible I've been all my life until this thread.
     
  14. dpw417

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    Yes, that is true...in part.
    From what I've read there are three catagories of law in the Old Testament. (ceremonial, civil, and moral)
    Ceremonial law related specifically to Israel's worship. It's primary purpose was to point torward the coming of Jesus Christ: these laws were no longer necessary after Christ's death and ressurrection. Jesus was often accused by the Pharisees of breaking ceremonial law.
    Civil law applied to daily living in Israel. Because modern society and culture are so radically different from that time and setting, all these guidlines cannot be followed specifically.
    Moral law is the direct command of God. The moral law is the will of God and applies today. Christ obeyed moral law completely.
     
  15. Sonny's jab

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    Interesting.
    What does the stoning to death of homosexuals come under ?