Rematch will give Machida an advantage for sure.

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  1. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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  2. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    You know I was rewatching the fight and I know for sure MAchida especially in the 1st two rounds landed the cleaner shots. I infer that the judges werent counting the takedown attempts and the pushing to the cage and kneeing the thighs.

    I was watching it more like a boxing fight than anything given Machidas crispness. But I can see why the agression could have swayed people to Shogun, he had Machida backing up the whole fight trying to engage.

    Even on the third round, Rua was actually very agressive early on and this is the round where he was starting to connect on the leg kicks flush. But I felt that Machida stole that round from the judges POV with a late flurry..and it was a significant flurry.

    Either way Shogun had the fight of his life.
     
  3. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Lol, in this significant flurry, its Rua who landed the best shot!!
     
  4. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Exactly the same way I saw it but that third round...Lyoto had Rua reeling towards the end against the cage in an exchange outlanding him 4 to 1 in power shots..Thats third was the toughest. Last two rounds Shogun won clearer than any of the rounds Lyoto won. I dont think the judges were biased, especially the two that scored the 1st three rounds for Lyoto, it made too much sense.
     
  5. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    How the hell would you say that when he got freaking kneed to the cage and ROGAN only called the right that landed at the end of the flurry. Again show the gif of this flurry from start to finish.
     
  6. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    listen, even if ROgan was on Rua's nuts, and landed more shot in that exchange, Rua still landed a great shot in that exchange, + he was dictading the whole round!!!!
     
  7. Nuke

    Nuke Full Length Member Full Member

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    fact of the matter they both where swinging for the fences in that exchange the difference is after Machida connects Shogun kept punching, after Shogun connects Machida stopped and grabbed on. What does that tell you? I'd say that it tells me Shoguns punch had more effect.
     
  8. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Round 1: Shogun landed 19, Machida 11. Case closed.
     
  9. smbsmd

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    imo, Shogun will win the rematch. Karate guys have problems defending themselves vs low kicks.
     
  10. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Rua landed 82 strikes vs 42 for Machida!!!!!
    Rua landed more kicks than overall strike for Machida

    Rua landed more, was dicdating the fight, effective agression, controlled the action...
     
  11. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    Did you actually watch the fight?

    Shogun got a few taps on leg kicks, several really good body and leg kicks and some landed but non-damaging knees to Machida's thighs up against the cage - about the same effect a foot stomp has.

    All but a couple of Machida's lands were solid kicks and a string of good knees to the body.

    Shogun only had a few really strong lands in the first round - most of his work wasn't any more effective than Machida's.

    It's funny how you don't seem so concerned with the quality of the work as much as the quantity of it.
     
  12. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    Yes, Shogun clearly won the fight.

    But for the first two rounds, Machida was striking with almost equal value to Shogun's work and was effective in keeping Rua's Muay Thai in control. Shogun didn't start to control the action until after about 12 minutes of repeated work on Machida's thighs and brought Lyoto's pace and manueverability down to his level.
     
  13. Totomabs

    Totomabs Sauna Belt Holder Full Member

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    those are telling stuff i must say

    shogun should have won the decision..

    i scored it 4 rounds to 1 for shogun (nevermind my avatar though.:lol:)
     
  14. audio101

    audio101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Machida doesn't have any other style to bring to the rematch. Shogun clearly has his number, and will out strike/kick him every time. The rematch is a clear waste, shogun should move on to better fights now.
     
  15. Totomabs

    Totomabs Sauna Belt Holder Full Member

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    all roads to glory lead to machida just the same, since he's still the titleholder