Remember when boxing had Super fights?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TBooze, Sep 18, 2007.


  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I do not think calling casual fans Ignorant is really going to help...

    Boxers today lack personality and are not prepared to sell the sport otr do the work required to be a superstar.

    It took Hagler 8 years and 50 fights to win THE Championship, even then it took him a further three years to get mainstream respect, but he was prepared to work at it. Mayweather and Jones had it a lot easier, they are more naturally talented than Hagler, and in theory have more charisma, but Jones blew it and Mayweather is on the verge of dropping the ball, he is not getting any younger.
     
  2. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I think Taylor vs Pavlik has a lot of potential to be a superfight.
     
  3. ChampionsForever

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  4. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Mayweather vs Cotto will be great too.
     
  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bowe was well known in Britain as were all the Heavyweight Champions up to and including Lewis.

    In 1992 pro boxing was only just starting again in Eastern Europe, Continental Europe was a much smaller beast that it is now. JCC was on verge of leading the Latino drive to mainstream, so the markets that counted then (North America/South Africa/Australia and Britain) were hit for that fight.
     
  6. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    It has potential to be a great fight, however, in terms of anticipation from casual fans and non-boxing fans as well as the promotion of it, it falls well short of a super fight.
     
  7. rendog67

    rendog67 The firestarter Full Member

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    a super fight is something that catches the worlds attention so i agree with your point, but it is sad that unbeaten records and quality opposition are not all it takes anymore. Some of these fights may well be classed as superfights in the future they may be talked about for years to come.
     
  8. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I suppose you're right, but it's their loss.

    I could care less about what the typical person or casual fan thinks about boxing.
     
  9. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Barrera-Morales I, II and III
    Barrera-JMM
    Barrera-Pac II
    Morales-Pac I, II and III
    Vazquez-Marquez I, II and III
    De La Hoya-Mayweather
    Castillo-Corrales
    Calzaghe-Kessler
    Hopkins-Tarver
    Hopkins-De La Hoya
    Mosley-Cotto

    All within the last few years and all superfights. The casual boxing fan is just not nearly as exposed to the boxers of today as they were when fights were still broadcasted regularly on cable. You have to take into account that there were advertisements for these bouts as well exposing the casual fan or even the non-fans to fighters. DLH-PBF had people who knew nothing about boxing talking at the watercooler about the fight.

    Its all about the public perception of great bouts.
     
  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holyfield/Douglas grossed silly numbers as well, but Evander was not well known enough to make it a super fight. de la Hoya may be mainstream in the USA, but he is not in Britain, people might know his name but would struggle to recognize him. Mayweather is even less known....

    Because boxing is no longer a mainstream sport, promoters hit the markets that will sell, they do not care if no one outside of the Latino market has heard of a fighter, if they grossing Millions of dollars anyway.
     
  11. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    You son of a *****!

    Remember when we used to argue on a routine basis?

    I just lost my passion, but don't worry, I'll be back.
     
  12. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    :good As far as I'm concerned, they are missing out
     
  13. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Well, if they don't know titlists, even one of which is a 10 year champion - then they are ignorant. I don't depend on them to tell me if I think it's a superfight. Why do you?

    All you are saying in the rest simply explains that broader acceptance equals superfights. To me thats the very core of what is wrong in boxing today. People spend too much time looking at recognisable names, rather than skill and craftmanship.

    I do think you are beyond such things? This is boxing, not a circus...
     
  14. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    This OP couldn't have come at a worse time.

    The fights happening for the remainder of this year are huge, to say the least. What the shame is that the American public has been so misinformed about every one of them. Well, maybe except the Pavlik-Taylor fight.
     
  15. BITCH ASS

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    I think it could be the beggining of a possible trilogy, unless of course Pavlik dominates the fight and then brutally, disgustingly knocks Taylor the **** out.