Remember when I said Fury was far more likely to be on PEDs then Joshua?

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  1. Blobby Nelson

    Blobby Nelson Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    His "problem" has been diagnosed and solved on multiple occasions according to Peter. If you believe anything they say you're an idiot.

    They're *****s after all.
     
  2. Camaris

    Camaris Boxing Addict Full Member

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    granth, hughie is one big, walking steroid. discuss.
     
  3. Finchley

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    I'd say he does his best work in the ring given that he dethroned Kiltschko in his last fight. Why does Fury still not get the credit he deserves?
     
  4. Blobby Nelson

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    Because from the looks of it he is a drugs cheat.
     
  5. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    It's all a load of rubbish and scandal


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  6. Finchley

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    The lack of credit / respect has not just appeared as a result of this story, it's been the same since last year. I do agree he has a case to answer but until anything is proven he still deserves credit for an excellent performance / result
     
  7. Blobby Nelson

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    He's;

    Racist
    ****phobic
    Ignorant
    Abusive
    Boring to watch
    ***ist
    A whinger

    Not great qualities.
     
  8. Blobby Nelson

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    For all the divs blaming UKAD.

    14.1.3 UKAD will not comment publicly on the specific facts of a pending case (as opposed to general description of process and science) except in response to public comments attributed to the Athlete or other Person charged or his/her representatives.

    Also worth noting the length of time issue has been purely down to Fury causing the issues.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    That's a recipe for corruption.

    If that's how it works then maybe all the boxers in the UK have failed tests.
     
  10. Blobby Nelson

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    It's a receipe for ensuring due process is followed correctly before you announce things.

    How you can't understand that is beyond me. It's the basic innocent until proven guilty methodology.
     
  11. Unforgiven

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    How long did it take to "prove him guilty" then?
    If he failed the test, A sample and B sample, then isn't that proof ?
    That was done back at the time, so why no announcement then ??

    I thought you said UKAD only announced it because the Furys ran their mouths off.

    When did the suspension run from?
     
  12. Daviddee1983

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    It's not how it works if fighters fail a drug test!!! Key word FAIL..Then they would get banned.. A failed specimen check will not cause a ban.. Still needs due course to run.. To confirm Tyson had higher levels in his test but the full blood test was all clear.. UKAD tried to suspend because all cases are confidential and the Furys said the were suing UKAD.. I have spoken to a very prominent figure in uk boxing and this looks very bad for UKAD as much as saying this could be the end of them. Bottom line Blobby if he had actually failed a drug test he would be banned
     
  13. Daviddee1983

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    http://m.bjsm.bmj.com/content/36/5/325.full
    there is a bit of reading on this matter.. Is very common for a false positive with urine tests... The blood test was negative..If he was injecting Nandralone he would of failed the blood test..
     
  14. Blobby Nelson

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    Have you spent even a second reading about it? If you had, the answers would be there.

    “In response to public comments made by Tyson and Hughie Fury’s representatives, UK Anti-Doping can confirm that both boxers were charged on 24 June 2016 with the presence [in urine tests] of a prohibited substance.

    “Mandatory provisional suspensions were imposed pursuant to article 7.9.1 of the UK Anti-Doping rules. The UK Anti-Doping rules allow athletes to challenge the imposition of a provisional suspension, and the independent National Anti-Doping Panel today lifted the athletes’ suspensions, pending full determination of the charges. These charges will be heard at a hearing before the NADP in due course. UK Anti-Doping will not comment further on the case until due legal process has been completed.”
     
  15. Daviddee1983

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    underneath is the conclusion to the research done by Kholer one of the foremost researcher in Sport affects on the body.. Its clear.. The report backs up what I put in my first post... People should not speak about stuff they know nothing about.. Makes you look silly.. Just for you Blobby that means Fact over Fiction.

    CONCLUSION

    The abuse of the steroid testosterone presented a new problem for drug control in sport.42 Perhaps the same can now be said for nandrolone. According to the Olympic movement anti-doping code, NA is not a prohibited substance.77 However, should NA in the urine exceed a certain threshold concentration, the interpretation is that nandrolone has been ingested or injected. There is strong scientific evidence to show that NA can appear in the urine of people free of exogenous nandrolone. Evidence suggests that NA may occur as an intermediate in the aromatisation of testosterone to oestrogen. Recent evidence has shown that the amount of NA in the urine can be regulated by the administration of human chorionic gonadotrophin. Therefore, threshold concentrations for men (2 ng/ml) and women (5 ng/ml) as defined by the IOC are still open to debate because conclusive scientific evidence showing how these values may be altered by various physiological stimuli is lacking. In accordance with this, multicentre studies need to answer further specific questions on the current urine threshold concentrations for nandrolone metabolites and whether physiological stressors and permitted supplement interventions can alter NA excretion.
    Take home message
    19-Norandrosterone (NA) is produced endogenously as an intermediate in the aromatisation of androgen to oestrogen. Intense exercise may increase its concentration in the urine. Future laboratory testing methods need to distinguish endogenous from exogenous nandrolone metabolites accurately, as this has important implications for doping control in sport.