Remember when people thought GGG could stop HWs?

Remains to be seen ! Price shouldn't be fighting any more !

 

Not kidding at all here. They actually seriously argued that Ward ducked Golovkin and moved up further in weight to evade the terror.

 

Haha, Proksa and Geale. Nobody agreed with that. Certainly nowhere close to being close to 50% agreed with that. Which means it was not a general consensus or close to one. Geale I can give a shout out to but I was in the minority for rating him as high as I did at the time, no way #2...

Credit for actually listing something in response. But I do not believe you. Proksa was coming fresh off a loss to the great Kerry Hope. He was not ranked #4 and if he was, you just cited one of the worst examples of The Rings' rankings ever, and that is saying something.

 

Remember when people started counting the moral victory of lasting 12 vs GGG as an actual victory?

Pepperidge Farms rememberz.

 

Just hype to get his name out there, not based in reality. Same as the claims he'd fight Ward at 168.

 

Jacobs ran like hell, he was a cruiser weight, was knocked down, staggered out boxed and out jabbed. Jacobs is 6 feet 1 inches tall. El Pollo ran like the chicken in the Rocky movie, the first one. Not easy to knock out boxers who are there to just survive.............El Pollo knew all he had to do was survice and Oscar would give him a decision or a draw.................he did not need to fight, he surely saw Tyrd at ringside, corrupt as hell!

 

There's no way you can prove a general consensus for any rating, everyone has an opinion. RING has the most accessible archived ratings and is a perfectly acceptable gauge of a fighter's standing and something you were fine with previously.

If you had a secret formula for establishing "top 5" standing you should have laid it out from the start, explained it, and not wait until I proved you wrong to push the goal posts. What do you expect me to do, to produce more and more sources, while you sit there with your arms folded, shaking your head that it isn't enough yet? **** you.

You made an erroneous assumption, tried to wiggle out of it with a straw man when called out on it, and now confronted again with the same info, you are changing the goal posts. Why is it Golovkin fans are the only ones that act like they have a set of testicles, while his critics act like they wear diapers and suck their thumbs? I will not be strung along by a big butt hurt baby.

RING had Geale as high as #1 but it doesn't matter, you will find him in the top 5 from 12/2010-12/2014. You were wrong.

No, he was coming off a destruction of Hope to avenge his MD loss.

He entered 2012 as #4 before Golovkin and entered 2013 as #10 after the Golovkin fight.

2012

[url]Sergio Gabriel Martinez[/url], Champion

1. [url]Daniel Geale[/url]
2. [url]Felix Sturm[/url]
3. [url]Matthew Macklin[/url]
4. [url]Grzegorz Proksa[/url]

 

I don't know what this is about exactly, and I don't want to read the thread back for it, but these things all check out.

little nuance to the MD loss to Hope from Proksa, is that it basically showed that he responds badly to setback during a fight. There was a terrible headclash, and Proksa couldn't really deal with the cut and the fact that Hope was doing everything in his power to open up that cut more (headbutts). Proksa still took that fight on many scorecards, but it being close in the UK with 3 UK judges you know the drill. The rematch was a formality.

 

Oh, the big baby has been making a big fuss that Lemieux was Golovkin's first top 5 rated opponent, and criticizing him for waiting so long to finally step up.

it has been pointed out to him over and over, and not just by me, that Proska and Geale were regarded as top 5 around the time Golovkin beat them. He than kept insisting we were arguing Rubio and Stevens were top 5 and we were wrong...because Strawmen are cool around here.

You will find the Proska win is what elevated Golovkin into the upper tier ratings in 2012.

 

Proska was ranked #9 when he fought Golovkin. Losing to Hope dropped him down the rankings and even though he avenged that loss before he fought GGG he didn't re-enter the top 5 since Hope was a nonranked bum.

The only top 5 rated opponents Golovkin beat are Lemieux and Jacobs.

 

3G still could stop some HWs fur sure. Dont forget they dont all have iron chin like Canelo has.

 

Thats wrong. Those are the ratings from 2011.

These are the ratings from 2012.

[url]Sergio Gabriel Martinez[/url], Champion

1. [url]Daniel Geale[/url]
2. [url]Felix Sturm[/url]
3. [url]Gennady Golovkin[/url]
4. [url]Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.[/url]
5. [url]Dmitry Pir[url]og[/url][/url]

 

Nobody stand or push GGG back. They can trade in spots but eventually all retreat.
GGG knocking out heavyweight is hyperbole, nobody actually believe that. But his power is real.

 

That's all nice and pretty but you can't change what was said here 4-6 years ago, Mr. 2017 join date.

Nobody and nobody's mama ranked Proksa in the top 5. I was higher than anybody on him and gave big props for his Sylvester win but the Hope loss rightfully dropped him out of any top 5 list with no revenge victory worthy of propelling him back up. It just didn't happen.

You will find that the Proksa win was Golovkin's HBO debut and first giant hyped exposure fight. Many peoples' first time seeing him fight. That is why it put him in the upper tier ratings in 2012.

I gave you big ups for the Geale shout and you are right but you still cry about me and complain that someone sees things differently. Telling me about opinions and whatever else you said, man, you're the one with the problem here! However, yet again, Geale was viewed by many on this forum as a bit of a joke and I got trashed for repping his credentials as much as I did.

What else are you going to whine about and hold some grudge against me for weeks across multiple threads? Weirdo.