Remember when so many were saying UFC>Boxing

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Jesus, Sep 27, 2014.


  1. Jesus

    Jesus Member Full Member

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    :lol: Did anyone see tonights card?

    I love MMA, but I'm a boxing fan more so. It was hilarious to see tonights card. No disrespect to anyone but its hilarious seeing the sport take a nose dive after all the gloating they did about how boxing is dying.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jJgg3XHLhs
     
  2. Jesus

    Jesus Member Full Member

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    When it was at its peak, it was awesome IMHO. The business model was great, it was fan friendly but not good for the fighters.

    Today, its neither good for the fans or fighters as far as entertainment or pay, respectively.
     
  3. SUPER TROJAN

    SUPER TROJAN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tonight's UFC card was actually very strong. Action from top to bottom. Of the 8 or 9 fights I saw, PPV and Preliminaries. I think only 2 went the distance.
     
  4. Boxing Prospect

    Boxing Prospect Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A good business model is one that is sustainable over the long run. UFC never had that. UFC's business model was short term and dependent on creating a star or two every few years. They had that when they had Silva, GSP and Lesnar but now they are left with Rousey and...erm...err.... If you're doing PPV you need someone to headline every show and there is no way the UC have enough "names" to do that with.

    You're right that when it's at it's peak it's awesome. The best UFC fights are fantastic but they seem to come around less and less frequently whilst PPV's seem more frequent. The demand has gone up but the supply of good fights has remained the same or dropped. Again not a great business model and not something that "worked to scale".

    Boxing, for all it's divisions, seems to throw us an exciting, interesting or inspiring curve ball every week or so. The divisions may "**** us off" but they actually add scale to the sport in some ways by allowing more "top fighters" to be in or around the top of their division. UFC could learn from that IF done properly. But they will still need a "star" to come from somewhere, just like boxing does right now.
     
  5. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    I remeber UFC 100 was so hyped is it was nuts! I think they actually did a mil buys...Went down hill from there.

    I heard the card Jones was gonna fight one only got like 20k buys...WOW..
     
  6. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, some **** is trolling. Great UFC card tonight.

    Crappy night for boxing though.
     
  7. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    the sport peaked a year or 2 ago now its slowly settling... it seems like UFC has just as much casual fans as boxing does and just like casual fans dont appreciate a pure sweet science boxer casual fans dont seem to understand and appreciate ground work (i like UFC and i understand how much is involved in ground work but because i dont practice it much myself i dont find myself to interested in UFC)
     
  8. FIN

    FIN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    More entertainment on tonights ufc card than mayweathers last 5 ppvs, ufc knows how to put on a good card unlike boxing which usually shits on the fans.
     
  9. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    just a fad. like kick boxing in the eighties.
     
  10. FIN

    FIN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is that why there are more mma gyms in vegas now than boxing gyms, mma is the fastest growing sport on the planet..
     
  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    DiBella sounds like a really moron in that video, I mean so does Rogan, but DiBella even more so......
     
  12. chic

    chic Active Member Full Member

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    I've loved boxing & mma for a long time, started watching mma properly around 04/05 with freakshow Japan events in Pride... never did I think mma will overtake boxing even around 07-08 when a lot of hype was around the ufc was coming and apparently boxing was fading

    mma will always a be niche sport, It peaked many years ago around 2009, it's not growing and has stopped in the US/Canada, the big superstars are leaving and they cant build with the rest despite delusional comments coming from Dana acting like Ronda/Weidman/McGregor are superstars. They are trying to hit/revive some of the old markets but nothing can really be done.. China/Japan, even in Brazil its hit its slope

    With large amount of cards being shown now the ufc cards are getting less stacked and people are losing interest, in Europe people are slowly fading away because the cards that are coming on are not worth staying up till 5am for and the results and not worth chasing up to watch replays off

    I definitely see Zuffa selling the ufc by 2018 the latest, if they sell around 2017 they will a better deal if they were to sell around 2020 because the damage will be done by then
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Brian Kenny had the best comment actually when he said MMA was not "aesthetically pleasing," when it got into all that rolling around on the ground ****. I would go further and say it's downright BORING to watch.

    It certainly takes skill. But no amount of dressing this dull **** up with macho WWE-style marketing is going to cover up the fact that when these fights hit the ground, it's like watching paint dry. :nod
     
  14. Boxing Prospect

    Boxing Prospect Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Isn't that female soccer?

    Fastest growing is a VERY misleading statement. A sport growing from 10 competitors to 100 competitors is incredibly "fast growing" with a growth figure of 1000%...but in reality it's still a miniscule number.
     
  15. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The problem with MMA is that it's not sustainable.

    It's too hard on their bodies. The wrestling and kicks to the legs do too much long term damage. You can't create any stars because they're too beat up by the time they get on a winning streak.

    Look at Jon Jones. He's getting injuries left and right.