Remember when so many were saying UFC>Boxing

This is a very good observation. Their biggest PPV stars were Brock Lesnar who retired after only 3 years, GSP who is shot to **** at 32, and Anderson Silva who is shot after only 6.5 years. Jones who is 27 now will probably be retired by 30.
By the time these guys become big names they are already nearly finished.

 

Brock retired mostly due to diverticulitis, GSP is not "shot to ****" and will probably come back... Anderson Silva made his MMA debut in 1997.

You're full of **** man.... There are plenty of boxers who become shot pretty young, most of the injury problems in MMA are due to over-training...

 

Dude I've been a fan of MMA and the UFC since the mid 90's, trained in various martial arts my whole life, had some amateur fight and have friends who have competed professionally in the sport. I know what I'm talking about.
The diverticulitis came from pushing his body too hard in training and poor nutrition(too much dietary fibre). Brock's early exit had everything to do with the arduous training REQUIRED too succeed in MMA. Training 3x a day 6 days a week for 8-10 week training camps 3x a year. That routine will break the body down. Then they have to train the grappling, the wrestling and kickboxing so risk of injury in training much higher. This is not even mentioning the fact that these guys are getting elbowed kneed and kicked in the head torso and legs which can very easily cause permanent damage to muscle and brain tissue.


GSP in his last 3 fights against Diaz, Condit and Hendricks absorbed more total strikes than all of his fights combined up until that point. He was showing a slight decrease in motor function since his fight with Jake Shields in 2011 when he was getting out struck by the grappler Shields, his reaction time was slipping and no longer get out of the way of punches.
At the age of only 32 he is now retired and already showing signs of significant brain damage through memory loss where he forgets huge chunks of his day.

Silva wasn't a full time fighter until 2000. He is the extremely rare example in the sport of a person who didn't take much damage in any of his fights until his first fight with Chael Sonnen. After his two fights with Weidman where he was brutally knocked out and had his leg snapped in half. He will never be the same physically or mentally.

You would be remiss to forget of all of the fights the UFC has to cancel because a guy gets injured. This happens in MMA way more than in boxing.

Some have erroneously claimed like UFC president Dana White that MMA is safer than boxing because there wasn't the data that showed the results of degenerative brain diseases or serious life changing injuries in retired fighters but now we are seeing the first crop of retired mma fighters in their 40s and 50s and many of them are suffering badly like Gary Goodridge who has pugilistic dementia and countless others.

 

We should make a thread to compare boxing vs MMA events month-by-month and not just whenever it suits some argument.

 

Injuries have certainly picked up in recent years, that's impossible to deny... I think it's mostly due to over training, look at Robbie Lawler who never gets injured for example, and Cerrone who fights 4-5 times a year... Some fighters just don't get injured, because they don't overtrain, or strain their bodies cutting weight. It's mostly this new generation of fighters who have been getting injured, not so much the older guys.

MMA isn't easy, but to say it's more taxing on the body(especially trauma) than boxing is just ridiculous... It's also nuts to say that that the primes of fighters are a lot shorter than the ones in boxing, when there are plenty of pioneers from the 90s still hanging around and holding their own against new talent. I can point to plenty of boxers who had short primes, and some with long ones..... Same goes for MMA.


And for the record, Gary Goodridge owes his dementia to his K-1 career, not MMA... He even said so himself.

 

F*ck UFC. Seriously, F**K UFC.

That **** is BORING.

Boxing rules. F*** UFC.

 

So Wlad and Hopkins are entertaining?

 

More entertaining than watching a couple of guys rolling around on the ground, that's for sure.:yep

 

Ten posts a year from the boxing fan and he spends it trolling the MMA forum.

 

They do the same but standing. It's a hug-fest with those two.

Please try again.

 

I just like the fight game. i'm watching more UFC than boxing this year on youtube. But I go to more boxing matches than MMA events live & PPV...

 

The problem with MMA is that watching a couple of guys roll around on the ground is dull.:yep

 

The time i stopped regulary watching ufc was about first half of 2012.before that i watched almost every damn show,now i barely watch it all.

Don't have massive interest to it anymore,i appreciate boxing more.and it's also way more interesting