Remember when Wladamir Klitschko was supposed to have a grade A glass chin?

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  1. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Those two statements have no correlation. The time of the stoppage = when Wlad was in the corner and 10 seconds before the fight was stopped. That was when Joshua couldn't land many, if any meaningful punches.

    That doesn't mean Joshua didn't land any flush power punches before that stage. Nor does it mean I claimed Joshua didn't land any flush power punches before that stage. Like a minute or over a minute before that point.
     
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  2. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Go to the last 20 seconds of the first round.
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Like most other trolls , lies is all you have to bring to a debate.
     
  4. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Below average but not glass. For reference, Price is glass.
     
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  5. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Those two statements have no correlation. The time of the stoppage = when Wlad was in the corner and 10 seconds before the fight was stopped. That was when Joshua couldn't land many, if any meaningful punches.

    That doesn't mean Joshua didn't land any flush power punches before that stage. Nor does it mean I claimed Joshua didn't land any flush power punches before that stage. Like a minute or over a minute before that point.
     
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  7. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both those statements are true!
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    The overwhelming evidence suggests Wlad has a poor chin, he's been dropped far too many times and been stopped almost every single time he has lost, only time he lost and went the distance was vs Fury who isn't a puncher and barely threw a punch only landing an average of 4 power punches a round. When have we ever seen Wlad take a big punch and not get hurt? His chin is an obvious weakness.

    Even Khan went 12 rounds with the hard hitting Maidana. Does Khan have a decent chin now because of an anomaly or do we look at the rest of the overwhelming evidence which suggests his chin is pure glass. Or do we think Maidana is feather fisted now, because he couldn't KO Khan.

    I mean how many times has he hit the canvas, I've honestly lost count. Pannell, Williamson, Peter x3, Sanders x4, Joshua x3, Brewster, Williamson, anymore? That's 14 times off the top of my head.

    Yes people will look at the Joshua fight and say well he took that uppercut. Well if you actually watch that punch in slomo, Joshua is falling back when he throws it, his feet were not set, so it was mostly an arm punch, yet Wlad was pretty much out on his feet. Also Joshua isn't a one punch KO artist, he's like Foreman, a big clubbing puncher, he doesn't spark you out he just clubs you into the ground with heavy shots. His shots have a lot of momentum and force but not much snap.

    And yes Wlad has never really been knocked spark out. He's usually stopped on his feet, but so was Bruno. Bruno never got sparked out either but nobody is saying Bruno had a good chin. When hit guys like Bruno and Wlad are out but can stay upright, their instincts keep them up, but nobody is at home and the ref has to come in and save them.
     
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  9. Howitzer1888

    Howitzer1888 Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah, Wlad's chin was his obvious major weakness. I think people focus too much on the Joshua fight and some of the punches he took there whilst forgetting the numerous times he has been dropped as well as the fact that the safety-first style was adopted entirely to protect that weakness. Joshua has proven a number of times that he isn't the massive hitter that some people think he is.
     
  10. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wladimir Klitschko does have a weak / below average chin. But he does not have a 'glass jaw'. That was my point all along.

    It's no anomaly. The dude has been boxing for 2 decades and 69 bouts. That's insane for someone who is his size. Yet, he's never once been knocked out unconscious or down for the 10 count. Someone with a glass jaw would have been unconscious or down for the 10 count at least once, if not multiple times with that many number of fights. But that hasn't happened to Wladimir Klitschko even once. And for a good reason. Because his chin, although not great, is still not as bad as some tend to think.

    We know Amir Khan has a glass jaw because he has been down for the count multiple times and has been knocked unconscious too. Same with David Price. This isn't the case with Wladimir Klitschko.

    If anybody seriously can't see the difference and distinction between Wladimir Klitschko's chin (below average / weak, but not glass chin) compared to Amir Khan's and David Price's chin (guys with true glass chins), then they have a problem. It's as simple as that!

    Someone with a true glass jaw wouldn't even need to be hit by a maximum powered punch to be put to sleep. Even if I agree that Joshua didn't fully sit down on his uppercut that he landed on Wladimir Klitschko, it still would've put Wlad to sleep if he truly had a glass jaw. But it didn't, because Wlad doesn't really have a glass jaw. Do you seriously think someone like David Price would still even remain standing, had he caught the same uppercut? A guy with a true glass jaw?

    Either way, Joshua still landed multiple other hard punches which Wlad still managed to take without being totally incapacitated. And this is not just against Joshua, but against various other opponents / power punchers he's faced.

    I've always suspected that Wlad's main problem isn't purely his chin, but his mindset.
     
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  11. Faceplant

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    Neither of those were knocked unconscious. They were clearly both conscious throughout.

    You can clearly see here, Khan's eyes are open and his eyelids are moving, hes badly hurt, but not out cold.
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    Price here is also clearly not out hold, he's nearly sitting up on his elbows, or at least trying to:
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    this is all thats needed.
     
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  13. Luis Fernando

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    Both were incapacitated to the point where neither were able to get back to their feet to the referee's count. This applies to both Amir Khan and David Price. So both were as good as unconscious, even if not 100%.

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    Even Rocky Martinez was out cold and totally incapacitated to the point where he could not get back up to his feet at the count of the referee when Lomachenko knocked him out. Even if he was still slightly conscious, doesn't change the fact that his legs were gone and he couldn't stand back up in time.

    These things have never happened to Wladimir Klitschko. Want to know why? Because he doesn't really have a glass chin / jaw. It's all a myth! Always has been