Remind me again how AJ has "The Best HW Resume"

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  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No monstrous victories have been won since this was echoed throughout the boxing world. Fury beat Wilder for a 3rd time. Wilder stopped Helenius. Joshua got beat by Usyk, but I'm told that losses don't count against the quality of a fighters resume. If the folks, and there were many, who constantly repeated this were right back then, they should still be right, right?

    Here are the top wins in order as I see them:

    Klitschko - 41 years old, no belts, two years of ring rust, final fight
    Povetkin - 39 years old
    Parker - has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt his ceiling is gate keeper
    Pulev - 40 years old and went on to lose to a 32-12 Chisora
    Ruiz Jr. - 282 lbs, went on to go life and death with Arreola

    Is this it? The best win on that list by some margin is a 41 year old with no belts who was out of the ring for two years. This is, by the way, ignoring the quit job against a late replacement 30-1 underdog, and ignoring the 2x domination by Usyk who had a tougher time with Chisora.
     
  2. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I guess the first question is, who said Joshua had the best heavyweight resume?
     
  3. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    If you judge the best resume on how many times you beat Chisora and Wilder, it's no question AJ doesn't have the best resume in the division at all, I figure. He's no daisy. He's no daisy at all.
     
  4. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Well-Known Member Full Member

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  5. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look at any post about heavyweight resumes prior to Usyk-AJ 1. It was a majority of folks. No one is saying it currently, but what has changed? Plenty of folks think losses do not count against a resume.
     
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  6. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Entertainment value is on the slide. Let's get miniq in here.
     
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  7. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    You know how to cut to the core of me, Baxter.
     
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  8. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why are you starting an argument in 2023 about a résumé from 2019?
     
  9. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk-AJ 1 was 15 months ago, not in 2019.
     
  10. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Point stands. Why are arguing old stuff? No one things Joshua has a better resume than Fury.
     
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  11. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    That makes sense. I thought you meant somebody was saying it now.
     
  12. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Let's make a cumulative top 10 list of heavyweight wins and see what it looks like. So basically ranking each win by each active heavyweight in order until we have a top 10.

    Would help put wins into context.
     
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  13. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Since those days Fury picked up the pace a bit and AJ lost to Usyk twice, meanwhile Ruiz, Whyte, Parker, and the other decent wins AJ had have accomplished very little.

    Basically the HWs got to fighting each other a little bit and the situation became clearer.
     
  14. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Joshua could read, such truths would cut.

    Absolutely he was generally considered to have 'the best resume', and since Fury has only fought Wilder again and Chisora since, Joshua absolutely still should have the best resume. But his fans have jumped off the bandwagon a bit, sadly. Maybe some even worked out he ducked Fury and therefore probably ducked Wilder.
     
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  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joshua is passe. Fury and Usyk will fight over who is #1, Joyce is on the rise, and Wilder has edged his way back into the conversation with his victory over a Finish crash-test dummy.

    However, a lot of people who post on here are fickle, and a few just plain stupid, so if Joshua beats that Amero-bum, those who abandoned him will return, and he will be right back in the mix.

    I still like the guy, and hope he gets a resurrection. The division has passed him by a bit, but he is young compared to Usyk, Fury, Joyce and Wilder. If he wants it, he'll get a third title-run eventually, and then there will be no denying him a decent spot in history.
     
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