Reminder: Calzaghe is a Welshman who calls himself 'The ITALIAN Dragon'

Carl had a big profile in boxing BEFORE the Bute fight. but we're not talking profile here, we're talking about the money made in the UK compared to the U.S. so you're way of point with that one.

Showtime had already set the pay terms for each fight i think, regardless of where it was held.

Kessler was payed more money before and after the Super Six. same goes for Abraham.

Carl hadn't really established himself at home enough to make the big money on home soil before the Tournament. he only had one big fight against Pascal. then it was to the states against Taylor, then the Super Six. the money wasn't, as i've said, that good.

when Carl started fighting at home after the Tournament, he then started getting paid the big money. which is my point entirely.

had Carl of stayed at home with all the fights he had from the Pascal fight onwards, he would have established himself in the UK much quicker than he did do fighting overseas. he also would have made bigger money, which is proven by the fact that he made the biggest pay checks when fighting at home.

plus, with fighting at home against the fighters he was facing, his **** Promoter would have been able to do a deal with Sky to show him properly, and not on some garbage PPV channel that not many people had heard of. who also, incidentally, messed up a whole load of orders that were made by showing a blank screen instead of the fight that they paid for and made a huge **** up of it all. me being one of them. so that put a load of boxing fans off from using the channel again.

but the whole point is, Carl earned more money in the UK than he did in the states. that's just a fact.

 

Carl did not have a high profile prior to Bute fight hence why he was being payed less than an inferior fighter like Amir Khan. In boxing the higher your profile is the higher your salary is. I remember someone asking back then why a less accomplished fighter like khan was getting more attention than Carl. Even Khan accused Carl of being envious and Jealous of him back then because he (khan) getting more attention and being payed more than Carl. Joe Calzaghe whom you worship also said the same thing back then. According to Joe no one knew who the **** Carl froch was,which is why he decided to make the journey to America to fight short to **** Roy Jones Jr after years of hiding in wales. Again, I don't know whats so hard for you to understand. I have even given you the Timothy Bradley example. Tim is getting payed more now than what he made fighting Jr Whiter in England, and that is because his profile has gone up since they fought.atsch
Again America is the Mecca of boxing. Thats why guys like Canelo, Pac, Martinex, Chavez Jr, and so many high profile Non American boxers are fighting in America and not Uk. Back in their home countries the fighter that I just mentioned a capable of selling out football stadiums, but they know that America has a bigger market than the Uk which is why there fighting here.

 

oh, ****. do i really need to waste more time on this rubbish??

Carl had a high profile to boxing fans in the UK. yes, he got some more of the casuals along the way, but he was still well known back then.

just because you're not shown of the biggest channel in the UK doesn't mean boxing fans didn't know who he was. it's not like fans here in the UK all of a sudden asked themselves who this Brit fighting Bute was, and thought they'd just go along to see what was what. that's a stupid thought process that has nothing to support it, but lots of evidence against.

the Nottingham arena was full when Froch fought Dirrell as well. boxing fans knew who he was.

the Timothy Bradley example isn't the same at all. Timothy wasn't that well known anywhere in the world, so he fought in the UK because it made business sense to. he was the mandatory to the WBC. Witter and his side won purse bids, so Bradley had no choice but to fight in the UK or lose his position. that's how it works.

whereas for Carl at the time with Taylor, it wasn't held in the U.S due to it making more money, it was held there on the basis of Taylor refusing to go over to the UK. he didn't care if he lost his mandatory either. that's why Carl said he'd go over there even if it meant he'd get less money because he wanted to fight the best. then came the insults towards Jermain to try and coax him into the ring.

Jermain at first wouldn't even fight Froch on home soil. but Carl kept the insults going until he agreed. Jermain all the way through on the Showtime build up kept on saying "who is Carl Froch".

completely different.

also, Froch makes the money because HE'S the ticket seller. whereas Bradley only makes that big money on the back of who he's fighting. look at how much he earned against Provodnikov?? look at how small the arena was too. that's no Superstar who sells tickets by himself. unlike Carl.

of course the money is better for Pac and Canelo in America. i never said it wasn't. but it's not better across the board for all fighters fighting in America.

Carl Froch could be making about $15 million alone for his rematch against Groves. how many fighters in America are making that kind of money or more in the states??? :think

 

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Dude you're full of it. I've given you evidence of your own country men in Calzaghe and Amir khan confirming what I've wasted these whole time trying to instil into you're ignorant ass for the past two days and you still continue to remain ignorant. Again Carl was have not always been big name, **** Joe Carlzaghe even said it. If he was as big back then he would have gotten the type of payday that he is getting recently. I think I've made this **** clear enough for you and to be honest I'm getting quite tired of replying to you.:verysad

 

i knew i shouldn't have wasted my time with you.

ignorant?? look up irony.

so your evidence to Carl being known or unknown is by what Calzaghe and Khan said??

get the **** out of here and don't waste anymore of my time. i've had enough of the morons on here to last a life time.

 

o so now Joe's words are no longer gospel to your ears you ****ing :smh. The only moron here is you with your over patriotic British ass.You only accept Joe's words when its convenient to you. You're too emotional and ignorant to fact and I can't believe I've wasted my precious time conversing with your ******ed ass.:hi::hi::hi::hi:

 

He's a clown, bro. Him and the rest of his ilk who think the boxing sun rises and sets with Carl "I lost 2 of my 3 biggest Fights" Froch.

Honestly, how idiots like him can equate the UK with the US in boxing over the decades is stupefying.