Renaldo Snipes...a grade A ******* IMO

If i can be honest here i think you have (on multiple occasions) been blowing up the Snipes right hand in an effort to excuse Holmes not only going down, but being very seriously hurt. **** happens Bill. I will make two points.

1. When Snipes got maximun leverage he had reasonable power. He dropped the durable Berbick with a big right hand as well.

2. Larry probably didn't see the punch and this of course has a big affect on damage done.

 

Bill you might find Larry to be the one who ran his mouth in the build up to the fight and Snipes was simply bitter due to things being said. Holmes did this many times, and proof can be easily found. This is just the way it was, Holmes was a serious mofo, others might label it differently.

I don't agree at all.

Two things stand out to me. The first is that Snipes simply did not realise the fight had been stopped. He was a bit stunned and had his head down just prior. He was simply looking to box on IMO. The second is that IMO, a solid opinion i think, Holmes was simply pissed off that he didn't have the chance to stop Snipes properly.

I feel very very confident that my above comments are correct.

 

I can't watch a fight with Cosell commentating without saying 'thanks' to Tex Cobb....:good

 

I think so too. That is just the competitive spirit that most driven boxers have. I believe the same thing happened when referee Walcott ran over to Fleischer after Liston got up in his second fight with Ali: Ali really tried to knock out Liston there and then in fear for the fight being stopped in what he saw as unfinished business. That, by the way, also convinced me (among other factors, of course) that Ali knew it was not a legitimate knockout punch; that anchor punch stuff came only a day after the fight.



By the way Bill, you box right? Unless you haven't sparred yet, you should be to understand why Snipes didn't see the fight was stopped. When you get clocked hard, especially by a heavyweight, then strange things can happen. Frazier did a little dance by the ropes against Foreman, Morisson was fighting on way after the fight was stopped, Tyson asked what happened half a minute after Douglas knocked him out, etc.

 

Simon Brown was still punching in his sleep etc lmao

Agree with the rest too

:good

 

Seems like we're on one line today JT. Got any picks on Mormeck/Haye and Cotto/Mosley ?

 

The two things I noticed about the Holmes Vs. Snipes stoppage: in regular speed it looked like Snipes was on the verge of mounting a comeback to keep himself in the match. In slow motion (keep in mind I had this on mute due to studies so you can't question the power of the commentator's persuasion) the call appeared justified. Honestly, I think Rudy Ortega should have given Snipes a little more time. Granted Snipes probably would have lost, but a couple more seconds probably would have seen Renaldo swinging wildly for a little more, then either clinching or getting himself out of that corner.

 

We're always on one line.

Cotto - Mosely has me most intrigued. Mosely will be the most cunning opponent Cotto has ever faced, and is still fast as hell. He is however way past his best while Cotto should be peak. Common sense tells us Cotto should wear him down. TBH i have a bit of Cotto but haven't really studied him. Let me think overnight mate

 

There was a vindictive, mean streak in Larry that probably helped make him a great fighter, but that shove probably was unneccesary, and did much to enflame Snipes. Snipes was lucky, in my opinion to deck Holmes, but Holmes also had himself to blame for it, much like Lennox Lewis' two ko defeats. Snipes had his moment in the sun in that 7th round, and was probably the high point of his career. He subsequently fought Gerrie Coetzee, and was decked twice in a fight that was nothing more than a screaming robbery. He would have been slaughtered by Tyson if they ever met. Lewis would have had no problem at all with him either.

 

Hi All,

Even though Snipes may have acted in an improper manner after
the stoppage loss to Holmes, I can tell you that I have met Snipes
in person and he is a really good guy and he is well liked by the
people that know him in Yonkers, NY.



Grebfan9
www.firstroundboxing.com

 

After some thinking i am going to go the upset in this one Chris. Mosely's never really taken much beating and tho old should not be damaged goods. I'll take Sugar via decision or even a late round stoppage. Bit of a leap of faith, but i'll stick with it.