Renaldo Snipes

Call him "Mr." Snipes.

 

Choklab - Good post fella, as always you make some great points.

However, I've just watched the finish of the fight again and I still think the stoppage was slightly premature, though I concede not as premature as I remember it at the time - I guess that may be because & I am older & less impressionable than I was 30 odd years ago!

But I'm not convinced the fight would have been stopped had the situation been the other way around, and that's the part I find unsatisfactory. The fact that the Holmes-Cooney fight was next up is merely circumstancial evidence of any conspiracy theory...

 

Certain situations force the ref to make a decision there and then. It's about being defenceless under accurate fire. After the event it's easy to say one more punch wouldn't hurt.

If Holmes was as defenceless in a corner the ref would have been forced to make the same decision. In that situation the ref can't think of Gerry Cooney in the next fight, he is forced to act then.


In the shavers fight Holmes went down hard but he beat a count. Some refs could have stopped the fight without counting had he been in trouble all the way until that point. However, Larry was in front and on rising WAS in a terrible state and I am sure the ref was counting down the bell and watching for solid, unanswered shots to land so that he could stop Holmes. Ernie was throwing bombs but Holmes, out of sheer luck more than anything else stumbled away. I don't think he took more than one glancing blow before the bell saved him. His head was not rebounding loosley and he was not defenceless under accurate fire.

 

What do I remember of Renaldo Snipes? I don't mean to take anything away from him, but the prevaling memory is of a speech I read that Tex Cobb gave at some boxing writer's dinner or some such. In attendance were all the heavyweights of the day; Holmes, Shavers, Norton, and a host of others, Snipes included. Cobb, in his typically blunt fashion, paid homage to the bevy of fighters in attendance. "I'd just like to say that it's a great honor tonight to be sharing the stage with some of the baddest ni&^ers around."

"Hey! I take offense to that!" Cried Renaldo indignantly.

"Relax, Mr. Snipes, " Cobb calmly replied, "I wasn't referring to you."

 

Haha! You cant beat a Cobb quote. Another funny one was at a simular event somebody introduced Tony TNT Tubbs as the heavyweight contender with "the shortest fuse". Cobb cracked "I seen that s.o.b in the shower. Man! He ain't got no short fuse!"

 

Typical TEX COBB, LOL, guy was a nut...

Too bad Tex and Snipes never had a match, would have been interesting, to say the least....

 

After rewatching the end of the Holmes vs Snipes fight I think it was a premature stoppage. Snipes didn't look badly hurt and Holmes just nailed with a few decent shots ( something that tends to happen in boxing matches. ) Larry was clearly in control of the fight, but Snipes was in LESS trouble than Mike Weaver was in his first fight with Dokes, yet that one was deemed one of the worst stoppages of the decade.

It can be viewed at approximately 1 min of round 11.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZWenOPT89M

 

Just another boxing anamoly. Snipes was an awkward, pretender 'wannabe'. Holmes took him lightly and got decked.
Show me these 'big' Snipes wins. IMO he looked like an amateur, sort of a Jack Bodell American.
Why Gregory would blow up into a fat pear and fight him and then shrink into a shriveled pear to fight Spinks is beyond me!
Gregory is a BETTER ATG fighter than Michael Spinks, start another thread if you disagree.
Snipes was simply one of an early 80's crop of wannabes that had NO chance at the Title and simply had their moment of fame (the KD).

 

I can't be bothered starting another thread about it, but I can't see any rationalization for claiming Eddie Mustafa Muhammad was a better career fighter than Michael Spinks. There's just nothing to base that on.

 

Snipes was as good as Berbick and he wound up with a belt after losing to Holmes. Who knows? Had Tubbs, page, coetzee, Witherspon or Dokes had of dropped the ball defending against Snipes rather than the guy each wound up handing their belts to Renaldo would have been a kind of champ too. Part from Quick Tillis every damn heavyweight who challenged the alternative champion to Larry Holmes won a belt!

 

Greetings sal! And you may be right. Eddie's "demons" prevented him from cementing a 'legacy'. But, IMO, had he not pulled his 'head case' antics after Marvin, who knows? He had to step into a 'shrinking machine' to make weight for Spinks and the AP STILL scored that fight a draw.
IMO, with his head on straight, Micheal could not beat this guy.
You've seen him fight I'm sure! "Never has so little been done with SO much talent!

 

Always liked Snipes. Lunch pail type who gave a good effort. I was pissed when that Cuban bum was allowed to feast on his corpse.

 

That was on the under card of Holyfield vs Bowe II. Hearns fought Andrew Maynard that night too. Buddies and myself were over at one of their houses, and ordered the fight on pay per view. Enjoy some good beer and a night of interesting events.

 

Me, too. I always really disliked Gonzalez and was giddy when Bowe beat his ass. Anyways, weird but good card. The 90's ruled for great PPV action.