Report: Calzaghe in negotiations for his next fight

Be astonished, then, and do more research before you open your mouth, especially when you're opening it in an attempt to refute what I'm saying or the points I am making:

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/sport/boxing/3832401.EXCLUSIVE__US_TV_giant_backs_Millennium_Stadium_finale_for_Calzaghe/

You're dumb, real dumb. Next time, don't try to mess around with me and don't flap your gums when you don't know your sh*t, or I'll embarrass you again.

 

False.

Your conflating visibility with PPV buys. They aren't necessarily correlated.

In other words, there are people who have HBO and who presumably watched 24/7 who didn't order the fight. I know some such people. Those people didn't know Calzaghe before, but they know him now. In other words, Joe's visibility among these people has been raised, even though they didn't drop the money to watch the fight on PPV.

Now, I understand the goal of the 24/7 is to build buys for the PPV. However, I used the term 'visibility' specifically to differentiate it from PPV buys. It's a safe bet to assume that there are those who watched the 24/7 who did not know Calz before and who now know him. This is not tied to the PPV numbers.

As I said, the 24/7 raised Joe's American visibility. And we're not even talking about people who will end up watching the 24/7 on the 'net in the future.

This is one reason it's hard for Joe to walk away now. After all of these years, he's starting to get some publicity, he can promote his own fights and he's turning big checks. That isn't easy to walk away from, especially when you're schooling guys like Jones as easily as Joe did (shut Roy out the last 11 rounds).

 

Shut up, and don't dream of patronizing me or thinking you know more of what's going on here than I do. Save your breath, 'Tiger.'

I don't suffer fools gladly, never have. Guys that mess around with me on subjects I know infinitely more about than they do get clowned. That's what you just saw. Not my fault. The guy above wanted to crap on Joe and so he made a statement he shouldn't have made around a guy like me who knows more about what's going on than he does. So, I simply pointed out the obvious. Don't fault me for that. He wanted to play games with the PPV buy numbers and I exposed his ignorance of HBO's intentions for what it was.

Do you understand what a reporter's credibility means? Or here's a different question -- do you think the guy who wrote the story is making up what the HBO exec said? Do you, ESB Guy, think you understand what HBO wants to do better than the HBO exec?



I've already been through all this. Get a late pass.

Dawson isn't saying he'll fight Joe in Wales (as he did) unless he knows Showtime will get on board with the fight. In fact, part of why the HBO guy is likely saying this to the reporter is to help the negotiation process with Dawson and Showtime. This is how the game works.

Could the deal fall through? Absolutely. That's not the issue. The issue is whether or not HBO is interested in backing such a fight. They are, and that's what the article states. Don't conflate and don't try to patronize people who understand the situation better than you do.

 

Dude, you're burying yourself here. How bad do you want to be embarrassed?

I know words and meanings -- particularly those which I write -- better than you do. I can assure you of that.

'Visibility,' as I am using it, refers to people being aware of your existence. The word literally means 'being perceivable by the eye.' You're confusing visibility, I think, with 'viability' or 'marketability.' They're not the same terms, and there's a reason why I didn't use those terms and instead used 'visibility.'

Let's try this again: There are almost certainly people who watched 24/7 who did not order the fight. Thus, 24/7 may not have helped the PPV numbers but it DID increase Joe's visibility because people who had never seen him before or did not know his story now do. Do you understand that? Does that make sense to you? How many more times do we have to go over this before you understand what I'm saying? Do you understand what 'correlation' means, or 'conflation?'

The 24/7 did, and will continue, to raise Joe's American VISIBILITY. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THOSE WHO SAW THE SHOW HAVE TO HAVE ORDERED THE PPV TO NOW KNOW WHO JOE IS WHEN THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE WAS BEFORE.

I hope that helps. If you can't grasp what I'm saying by now then there may be little hope for you.

If anyone else can help Arriba out with the differentiation of terms I'm using, please feel free to jump in.