Request for Classic opinions on current version of Pacquiao vs the best jr-welters

Yeah i was thinking about it just. The workrate is huge for Manny. I didn't really think Locche was all about controlling pace myself though. Not like a Whittaker say, or Hopkins, who dictate pace with jabs or distance. I always thought Locche just let's guys do what they want but frustrates them and makes them miss regardless.

It's a close call i reckon.

 

How does 'the classic forum' underestimate Pacquiao when a shitload of us here rate him as a great fighter?

What's your game nobby?

 

why would they pick dela hoya to beat pacquiao?

and why most posters here think that pac-hatton fight is 50-50 when pac has all the advantage to demolish hatton.

 

Yeah, I just rewatched some Locche footage and you're spot on about the pace.He is so, so good.

This is our suffering and our joy. You always think the last fighter you watched has an edge because they all have so much going for them. I think Manny's handspeed bothers Locche, but I'm not sure he loses.

 

:good

 

Oscar was also fighting at a more natural weight of 154 pounds not 145. Big difference. I think pac was always considered a threat because of his speed and power, but the #1 underlying question that made him somewhat of an underdog and seemed to make his accomplishments bigger, is the fact that people questioned whether he could handle the "size" of his opponents. He had been knocked out and down by smaller guys, so there was this big question of whether or not he could take a real welterweight punch.
Now, after three successful welterweight fights, that has to be taken out of the equation. Pac is a welterweight now. He has better than average welterweight power, and a welterweight chin with speed to boot, so hes not this little guy thats at some huge strength, size and power deficit.

 

If being an inaccurate predictor "exposes" a poster, and you distance yourself from that category, may I ask how you have spent the millions you have undoubtedly earned with your correct fight predictions?

 

Out of Tzsyu, Chavez, Taylor, Pryor and DeLaHoya, I would only pick Chavez with any real confidence to beat him. And even there I acknowledge Pacquiao has a good chance too.
Taylor and Pryor have a good chance against him, but I'd probably favour Pacman.
Tzsyu and DeLaHoya, I dont give much chance.

 

I've seen people here like Sweet Pea call the Pac-Hatton fight to a tee. Plus i myself called the Cotto-Pac fight. You're off your head.

 

Why so high on him beating Pryor? With Pryor's chin, unflinching offence AND ability to keep it at mid-range if he needs (without the massive reach disparity he had against Arguello I'd doubt he'd get hit as much) I just can't see Pac living with it. There's a difference between a few shots from Cotto and numerous shots from Pryor.

Over 12, maybe Pac. over 15, Pryor all the way IMO

 

Thank you very much for speaking up on this.

 

Vs Pryor would be a war that would win the last man standing ... this would be an epic and brutal fight ... could be either way

Vs Tszyu .. very similar to the Pryor fight only that this ending in a KO for Pac in the later RDS .... after get a brutal beating in his way to defeat Tszyu

vs Taylor ... i would love to see how Pac deals with someone who really is faster than him ... anyway i think Pac Power and stamina would be the edge .. Pac Ko 11 after gettin frustrated

Vs Young Prime Hoya
Pac get outboxed by the tallest, and almost fast Young Hoya ... 8-4 UD for Young Hoya

Vs Chavez
Chavez is no Cotto asero ... or hatton, or a weight drained hoya ... Chavez is the only one fighter that i think could be toe to toe with Pac and get the better part .. Chavez Legendary Chin, Legendary Stamina and the most Dangerous Body attack of all time would brutally beat the Pacman in 10 with the early rounds goes for Pac ....

* if Pacs try to "Feel" the power of Chavez like he did against the ropes with Cotto ... he would be a Dead Man

 

Reach wouldn't have anything to do with it. Pryor's defense was wretched against southpaws. Look at him against Kameda just before he fought Arguello, and against Hinton afterward. Pacquiao would have a field day teeing off on that. And while he didn't have the height/reach advantages that Arguello had, his punches were much quicker and sharper than Arguello at that weight and would be coming from more problematic angles.

But there's also a difference between walking in wide open against Kameda/Hinton and against Pacquiao.