Rescoring De La Hoya-Trinidad....what is your new scorecard

How does disagreeing with your take on the fight make someone a DLH sack swinger ?

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Re: Rescoring De La Hoya-Trinidad....what is your new scorecard

So if you don't want to rewatch it and provide an actual round by round score, then maybe you're making my earlier point.

 

De La Hoya was fatigued. He has admitted this a few times.

There is the whole myth about his corner telling him to run, but when I watched the fight all I hear in the corner is "box, box, box", and "no more rounds like that" after the 10th.

 

What is it with Vegas judges being drunk at De La Hoya fights?

Jerry Roth gave De La Hoya 9 rounds against Whitaker. So did another judge. Then he gives Trinidad 3 of the first 4 rounds.

Ken Morita had De La Hoya beating Quartey by 2 points.....going into the 12th. Quartey could've actually won the 12th round on all three cards and still not won the fight.

Then there was the Felix Sturm debacle.

 

I find your scoring and opinion sad. Extremely sad, especially someone who had Marquez beating Pacquaio.

How Trinidad can win rounds on 2-3 clean effective power is beyond belief. Some of the rounds were close. I'll say one thing thats a fact and not even an opinion. Trinidad landed one punch at a time, throughout the entire fight, and sometimes he only threw one punch a time, never mind land one.

The biggest factor for me, variety. And De La Hoya had much better variety. Jabs, combos, defense, clean power punches. All Trinidad had was power punches, but for the most part his shots were blocked or hit fresh air.

Trinidad the aggressor? He was extremely ineffective. De La Hoya while on the backfoot and side to side was doing better and more consistent work. He was scoring, landing, something Trinidad wasn't doing enough of I'm afraid.

Variety

 

And mostly everyone. 90% easily. Trainers, journalists, fighters, etc. All thought De La Hoya should have won.

 

De La Hoya winning 4 rounds?

Divac is a cool poster, but I love the unintentional humor of some of his scorecards.

 

Are you going to sit at your keyboard Robbi, and tell me that DLH's so called boxing against Trinidad was on the level of JMM against Pacquiao?

If you say yes, then thats what is sad.

I posted earlier that what DLH accomplish against Trinidad was to completely avoid boxing exchanges.

When you're that much better as a boxer than your opponent, you dont avoid him, you relish the opportunity to let your hands flow and proving just how much better you are.
.....that was the case with JMM vs Pacquiao.
DLH did'nt get within sniffing distance of proving boxing superiority against Trinidad, and certainly he was'nt going to prove that superiority the way he was consistently lateraling his feet on high speed turbo.

Felix Trinidad did not impress me what so ever, but when a fighter fights the way DLH did....afraid to get into a boxing related exchange for the great majority of the fight, then I just cant and will not give him rounds.

There was two or three of the rounds where DLH did a little bit of letting his hands go, and as Scientist said, he turned Trinidad's trunks a different color.
.....there was'nt enough of that, and certainly DLH was'nt even attempting to let his hands flow in a round by round basis.
In alot of the round, DLH would land a two or three punch combo during the round, and then rest on that laurel, lateraling on high speed turbo for the remainder of the round.
Those rounds to me, are rounds that Trinidad gets landing his one punch at a time as he's on the chase.

DLH fought scared, and quite simply, it cost him the fight.
Not a whole lot of journalist complained about it either!!!

To be honest, I think more people complain about this decision now, than they did back when it happenend.

 

I hate De La Hoya but he easily outboxed Tito the whole bout with the exception of the last 3 rounds.
Felix did nothing but follow Oscar around the entire bout except in rounds 10,11, and 12.

HOW CAN A FIGHTER WIN AT LEAST 8 ROUNDS AND LOSE THE BOUT BECAUSE HE GAVE THE LAST 3 ROUNDS AWAY?AND REMEMBER ITS CALLED EFFECTIVE AGGRESION!

 

I thought to win a round you actually had to hit the opponent. DLH gave tito a boxing lesson til he got on his bicycle. That was a disgraceful decision. Not the first in history, but if you watched that and can truthfully give that fight to Tito, you are a nuthugger or punchdrunk.

 

Well, Oscar was not landing in the final three rounds - on my card (I scored a while back), I remember scoring it a draw.

He did not perform like a champion - neither did Tito, for that matter.

BTW - didn't Willie Pep win a round without throwing a punch? Not sure if this is a myth or not, but always hear about him doing that.

 

He supposed won a round without throwing a punch against Graves, but apparently it's just a myth.

 

The scoring doesn't really seem to be the issue with me. It is just the way the fight unfolded at the end. If De La Hoya was dominating the way many of you say, & Trinidad was so inneffective, winning eight rounds or whatever. Why didn't he close the show like a true champion? When Chavez had Rosario at a didsadvantage after nine. Did he start backpeddaling the rest of the way? Hello no! Like a true Champion, Chavez turned up the heat and took Rosario out.

 

De La Hoya was tired and did what he felt would help him win the fight.

 

I regard this fight, given the grandeur of the event, the worst robbery I've ever seen. Even worse than Whitaker-Chavez.

I really can't see a case for Trinidad winning.

I'm not a particularly big fan of Oscar - But I thought that he gave Trinidad a boxing masterclass for the first ten rounds, dropping just one.

He landed a shitload more punches than Trinidad, outjabbed him, outboxed and outmanuevered him, My score was 117-111, and I didn't think it was all that bad a fight as some people have suggested.