Respected columnist Dan Rafael's thoughts on Calzaghe

because like i said in my next post - hes a better fighter than that

 

He definately wated his prime, you get no argument from me on that.

 

Don't waste your time. Its not about the promotion or Rafael or the state of boxing, and of course its not about RJJ. Its a Hate Thread pure and simple. The OP is from Philly and he hates Calzaghe (gee I wonder why?) and wants to push his anti-Calzaghe agenda. It doesn't matter what Joe does or says and if other boxers are guilty of the same thing. Joe could not pay his water bill and he'd be on here saying "what an *******, he doesn't pay his water bill and yet he drinks water, what a hypocrite!" Its really pathetic and getting old.:-((

 

thats very childish. hes replying to me and i'm not from "philly".

either defend the point or don't...

but don't just reply and dis someone becuase you dont know how to respond.

lets see you do it without whining on people...go....

 

I don't make up lies, I just state facts and back it up with independent 3rd party evidence, not press statements from the parties involved after the fact. If the facts so happen to not be favorable to a certain fighter than so be it. You on the other hand make claims to either hate or nuthug. I'm still waiting for the evidence from you about your claim that Magarito and Top Rank were offered to replace Cintron and fight an immediate rematch with Williams and turned it down. And like I said, if you provide it to me, I'll concede the point.

 

reply to my post if you state "facts".

but you dont...you're always on the defensive when you post and you havent answered a post straight up yet.

 

Someone's gotta defend the truth from all the Hater Propaganda:bbb.

Your post? There's no facts to state. Your post is simply your opinion on why people should hate Calzaghe and not Roy Jones, your "reasoning" being that RJJ made his name on the world stage (whatever that means) before Calzaghe and Calzaghe didn't bother to pursue US recognition (do they give out a certificate for that?) as hard as you think he should've. Its nothing but opinions with a strong tinge of :fire, on a thread that quoted an opinion column with a strong tinge of :fire. Arguements and opinions can be made that all 3 of them (RJJ, BHop, JC) dodged people and put their foot in their mouths on more than one occassion. I'm not gonna sit here and analyze and hate on these guys for what they say outside of the ring. I'm more interested in what they do inside of it.

 

There you go, making stuff up again to trying to squirm out the corner you're in. I said PW (Goosen really) opted (feel free to go back and look) to fight Quintana when Clottey and Margarito were willing and available, and I likened that to cherry picking or ducking. You then called me a liar, tried to prove me wrong and then conceded (the Clottey point) that you couldn't when you looked at the facts, and then claimed AM and Top Rank were offered to replace Cintron but turned it down. All I am, is asking you to prove your claim and all you do is keep sidestepping. Hmm, I wonder why?:think

 

The article I refenced from this very site before the fight clearly stated that the author was told by Goosen that the fighters under consideration to replace Cintron for the WBO title shot were Judah, Collazo, Clottey, and Quintana. Logic would presume that they wouldn't consider fighters that weren't available especially on short notice and that any fighter would jump at the chance to fight for a belt, especially Clottey who up to that point was fighting to just the recognition he felt he deserved and had left Dibella for Top Rank in an effort to speed up the process. There no evidence that any of them turne down the fight. And as evidenced by history, Goosen picked the weakest guy out of the bunch, and lost.

Logic would also presume that a guy (Margarito) that went out of his way to petition the WBO and become Williams mandatory would not turn down the fight if offered. You said he did turn it down. I'm calling bull**** and asking you to prove it. You are refusing.

The situation that happened then is really not unlike the situation that's happening now, with Margarito and Top Rank opting to fight Mosely and Cotto for the time being. Opting, cherry picking, ducking, take your pick.

The difference between you and I is that you accept one scenario, but deny the other, which is why you're a nuthugging hater.:fire:deal

 

Raphael is a lard-assed **** who used to get his mommas cookies taken from him in the schoolyard.

The idiot picked Jones over Calzaghe, so he has no right to open his trap. He also picked hoppy over joe.

Scru u fat boy.

 

Dan Rafael needs to get off De La Hoya's *****. The man has no integrity what so ever. Just a biased mother****er.