Respected columnist Dan Rafel's updated p4p list

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    2. Joe Calzaghe
    3. Manny Pacquiao
    4. Bernard Hopkins
    5. Juan Manuel Marquez
    6. Miguel Cotto
    7. Kelly Pavlik
    8. Israel Vasquez
    9. Rafael Marquez
    10. Winky Wright
    11. Shane Mosley
    12. Oscar De La Hoya
    13. Ricky Hatton
    14. Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
    15. Jermain Taylor
    16. Chris John
    17. Cory Spinks
    18. Joan Guzman
    19. Nate Campbell
    20. Antonio Margarito

    Thoughts?
     
  2. MON

    MON Active Member Full Member

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    Haye should be near the top 10.

    He's achieved more than Hatton, De La Hoya, Winky and Mosley recently.
     
  3. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    David Haye not on there is a disgrace

    Winky-Wright and Mosley so high?

    De La Hoya??????????
     
  4. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Winky Wright is one of my favorite fighters...but what exactly has he done in the past 3 years to earn that high acclaim?
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    He's only lost one fight this millenium, and that was to a legend.
     
  6. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    I agree Haye should be on there.
    But in terms of total accomplishments, he is slightly lacking.

    Haye is a top 15 guy for me.

    DLH in the top 15 is a DISGRACE!
     
  7. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    Awful list.

    Hopkins too high, as usual. The last time Bernard fought a young opponent, he dropped a pair of decisions.

    Pavlik way, way too high. I like Kelly, but he'd get his clocked cleaned by Kessler. Spinks looked horrible against Taylor and previously was awarded a close/bad decision against Karmazin. Why is he still ranked?

    Winky is too high. Mosley is too high. Jesus, does he acknowledge that there are fighters outside the United States?

    De La Hoya isn't even close to a PfP fighter at this point.

    Where is David Haye? Chad Dawson? Mijares? And Wladimir has been dominant, so at least he should be in the top 20.

    Horrible, biased list.
     
  8. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Should not be on it/is too high.
    De La Hoya way too high.
    Hatton could be a couple of places lower
    Shane is not top 10
    Winky far far too high, he has done nothing to warrent this place.
    Hopkins too high.
    Pavlik a place or two lower.
    Taylor fights at 168 now so he is not top 20.
    Chris John above Guzman :scaredas:
    But the big one Antonio Margarito I mean what the **** is that.


    Should be on it/not high enough.
    Mikkel Kessler slots in at 15ish
    Guzman should be higher.
    Cristian Mjiares should be in about 11/12
    Juan Diaz is still top 20.
    No Chad Dawson?????
    David Haye?????
     
  9. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A close hard fought loss to Hopkins, draw to Taylor and a very blah win against Ike Quartey (who IMHO didn't even want to be there) aren't enough to earn top 10 P4P status right now.

    I feel like it's almost the "Lifetime Achievement Award"
     
  10. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    He might cease to be a "respected columnist" if this is the trash he comes up with
     
  11. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    I have

    1. Floyd
    2. Manny
    3. JMM
    4. B-Hop
    5. JC
    6. Cotto
    7. Izzy
    8. Pavlik
    9. Rafa
    10. Winky
    11. Shane
    12. Hatton
    13. Haye
    14. Taylor
    15. Montiel
     
  12. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Mosley just lost a 7-5 fight with a top 10 pfp guy in Cotto, why wouldnt Mosley be top 15?
     
  13. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    11 though? You really think Mosley is one of the 11 best fighters on the planet right now?

    Late teens if I'm feeling generous
     
  14. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1-Floyd
    2-Manny
    3-JMM
    4-Joe Calz
    5-Bernard Hopkins
    6-Miguel Cotto
    7-Izzy Vazquez
    8-Rafa
    9-Kelly Pavlik
    10- Bad Chad Dawson
    11-Mijares
    12- Winky
    13- Shane Mosley
    14-Joan Guzman
    15- Wlad

    Then again I'm basing off recent accomplishments.
     
  15. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    Top 10 not bad,B-hop is a bit high but that will be sorted soon.
    Where the **** is Mijares - not even top 20
    Kessler is top 20 also