Respected columnist Dan Rafel's updated p4p list

Oh, forgot about Wlad.

 

I'm trying to list the fighters from best to worst, which is what a believe a true p4p list is.

1. Floyd

2. Pac

3. Calz

4. Cotto

5. JMM

6. Kessler

7. Haye

8. Shane Mosley

9. Jorge Linares

10. Vlad

11. Hopkins

12. Chris John

13. Ricky Hatton

14. Lucian Bute

15. Cristian Mijares

16. Israel Vasquez

17. Kelly Pavlik

18. Chad Dawson

19. Nonito Donaire

20. Rafa Marquez

21. Joan Guzman

22. Jermain Taylor

23. Wright

24. Cory Spinks

25. Nate Campbell

 

The only issue I have with the list is DLH at the #12 spot. I think that is absolutely ridiculous. They give him too much credit for being "competitive" with FMJ. He's 2-2 over the past 4 years and arguably should be 1-3.

 

Maragrito?

Ridiculous.

Wlad, Haye, Woods, Abraham, Witter, Diaz and Mijares should all be above him. They may not all be top 20 guys themselves, but they have to be ahead of Margo.

A win over Golden Johnson and a loss to the very average Paul Williams doesn't compare to the above's wins over Sultan, Enzo, Mormeck, Gonzalez, Ghevor, Miranda, Harris, Corley, Diaz, Freitas, Arce etc.

 

Margarito? - are you kiddin me???

 

Did you miss Oscar?:rofl

 

Cal
DLH
Chris John
Spinks
AM

are all too high IMO.

 

thats because he hasn't fought anyone good in years.

 

Tito, Taylor and Shane are pretty darn good.

 

People talk **** about Winky being a ***** and all but the fact is that Winky was a guy who took on all comers and came forward against bigger guys. He was the aggressor in both the JT and Hopkins fight. He's a warrior.

 

Going backward three years for Winky:

1) Fighting above his natural weight, lost a clear decision to old man Hopkins

2) Won a clear, if uninspiring decision over Quartey

3) Fought evenly against and got a draw against Taylor

4) Looked lackluster in a decision win over Soliman

5) Dominated an old and inactive Trinidad


That's a good resume, but not a great one. To me, he's a top 20 guy, not a top 10.

 

I agree with you 100% on Spinks, but hell, Spinks deserves to be in there over Abraham. Abraham doesnt have the quality of opposition yet to be considered top 20 P4P, not to mention the fact that he got a gift decision against Miranda.

And I love Kessler, I think he will definatley become a top 15 P4P guy, but he doesn't have the names on his resume yet to deserve it either, though he would be near the high teens in my list. Taylor does have the names on his resume to justify it, yet I feel like he's a little high on the list. As far as Hopkins goes, until somebody beats him clearly, he deserves to be where he is, though that will change April 19th.

I personally wouldn't put Klit in and I don't think Haye would be in there yet, Mormeck and Kelly are his 2 real quality wins, though i tend to prefer the lighter weights.

 

hey einstein how long ago was that?

your keeping winky in the top 10 because of what he did 3 or 4 year ago?

oh and by the way go watch the second fight with ssm, mosley beat his ass:yep

 

why did he decline a fight with oscar de la hoya? a guy he wanted to fight for so long?

also why the hell did he decline a fight with antonio friggin margarito?atsch